TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

VADA town hall meetings re Tesla

Discussion in 'Mid-Atlantic' started by bhzmark, Sep 7, 2016.

  1. bhzmark

    bhzmark Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,054
    #1 bhzmark, Sep 7, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2016




    Your business is under attack. Watch a short message from VADA President and CEO Don Hall - and please join us for a Town Hall meeting in your area - this is something you will not want to miss!


    [​IMG]


    Tuesday, September 13
    Staunton, VA
    10 - 11 a.m.
    Stonewall Jackson Hotel
    and Conference Center
    24 S Market St,
    Staunton, VA 24401

    Tuesday, September 13
    Roanoke, VA
    2 - 3 p.m.
    Sheraton Roanoke Hotel
    and Conference Center
    2801 Hershberger Rd NW,
    Roanoke, VA 24017

    Tuesday, September 20
    Virginia Beach, VA
    11 a.m. - 12 p.m.
    The Founders Inn
    5641 Indian River Rd,
    Virginia Beach, VA 23464

    Tuesday, October 4
    Richmond, VA
    2 - 3 p.m.
    The Place
    4036 Cox Rd.
    Glen Allen, VA

    Wednesday, September 21
    Leesburg, VA
    2 p.m. - 3 p.m.
    SkillsUSA
    14001 SkillsUSA Way
    Leesburg, VA 20176

    Thursday, September 22
    Springfield
    10 a.m. - 11 a.m.
    Residence Inn Springfield
    6412 Backlick Rd.
    Springfield, VA 22150

    Let there be no mistake. Tesla is preparing an attack on Virginia's franchise laws with an aggressive, vigorous campaign targeting legislators in the next General Assembly.

    You cannot afford to miss Don's special presentation, insight and understanding. VADA's position is recognized nationwide. Fast Company, a leading magazine, quotes Don in this month's issue. http://hrada.com/halltesla/Fast%20Company%20Article.pdf

    All dealers and GMs are strongly encouraged to attend this one-hour presentation. There will be time after for questions.
     
    • Informative x 3
    • Dislike x 1
  2. Saghost

    Saghost Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2013
    Messages:
    3,035
    Location:
    Delaware
    Look at all the other industries which have been attacked and changed... (doesn't name any, or give any hints what he's talking about.) Tesla and many others are attacking us (no indication of any others AFAIK, and he certainly doesn't suggest anyone else.)

    Not a very persuasive message - which is probably a good thing since it is an outdated system that adds cost without delivering value. :)
     
  3. jdo

    jdo Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2015
    Messages:
    173
    Location:
    Silver Spring, MD, USA
    More like Darth Vada . . .
     
    • Like x 2
    • Funny x 2
  4. swengl

    swengl Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2014
    Messages:
    237
    Location:
    Lynchburg, VA
    Bring on the change.....
     
  5. TexasEV

    TexasEV Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2013
    Messages:
    3,790
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Interesting how they frame it as "your business is under attack." They've never been in the business of selling Teslas, and if they continue to not sell Teslas how is that being "under attack"? Their mindset shows they believe they have the exclusive right to sell any new company's product that happens to be a car.
     
  6. swengl

    swengl Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2014
    Messages:
    237
    Location:
    Lynchburg, VA
    The activity is certainly designed to reduce competition in the automobile selling market and is a predatory act designed to maintain a monopoly already established. It's pretty much a textbook violation of the idea behind antitrust laws and should be stopped.
     
  7. bhzmark

    bhzmark Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,054
    to clarify, the text in the OP is from a communication from VADA -- not me in case anyone was confused. I suggest that if someone wants to go to the town hall meetings that they be super respectful and polite and nonconfrontational and perhaps just stick to a free market angle saying that government shouldn't tell consumers how to buy cars and you just want consumer choice to buy cars from whomever you want.

    Those dealers that do a good job and add value, then consumers will buy from them.

    It's just consumer choice without the gubmint telling consumers how to buy cars.

    The mostly republican dealers will likely experience cognitive dissonance and their heads might explode so stand back.
     
    • Like x 1
  8. swengl

    swengl Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2014
    Messages:
    237
    Location:
    Lynchburg, VA
    Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was pointing fingers at you, but the VADA's actions in this case are dubious, at best.
     
  9. EVTECH

    EVTECH Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2012
    Messages:
    84
    Location:
    USA
    Perfect location in Virginia Beach. The Founders Inn has Tesla Destination charging setup!
     
  10. tinm

    tinm 2013 S85 Owner

    Joined:
    May 3, 2015
    Messages:
    1,138
    Location:
    New Mexico, USA
    Gotta hand it to VADA. They even lie to their own dealer-members. Look what they say boogeyman Tesla is out to do!

    vadalies.jpg
     
  11. Lanny

    Lanny @Lanny

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    643
    Location:
    Maryland
    • Like x 1
  12. jthompson

    jthompson JThompson

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2011
    Messages:
    638
    Location:
    Fairfax, Virginia, United States
  13. MMC-

    MMC- S70D Refresh

    Joined:
    May 22, 2016
    Messages:
    55
    Location:
    West VA USA
    My thoughts also. I was expecting more FUD content than what was written.
     
  14. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    4,887
    Location:
    NoVa
    WaPo is very liberal, I don't see them pilling crap on Tesla.
     
  15. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    4,887
    Location:
    NoVa
    :slow clap: Spot on. Which is why it costs ludicrous amounts of money to have an annual service on a Tesla.
     
    • Dislike x 2
  16. swengl

    swengl Member

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2014
    Messages:
    237
    Location:
    Lynchburg, VA
  17. bhzmark

    bhzmark Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,054
    It costs money to hire intelligent people to work at Tesla service and provide valet pickups and dropoffs and loaners.

    I'm happy to pay more for better service.
     
    • Like x 3
  18. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    4,887
    Location:
    NoVa
    But Tesla is not giving an option to take your car to get it serviced elsewhere, since they're acting as a monopoly on repairs.

    I can take a BMW/Audi/Benz to Jiffy Lube (not that I recommend it), but I can't take a Tesla anywhere but authorized Tesla body shops and/or the service center for work.

    There is no shopping around involved.


    Don't get me wrong, I don't like the traditional dealership model. I prefer the way Tesla does the selling. But that one sentence (whether you dislike it or not, doesn't change the fact) is spot on. If there's no competition, a body shop can charge a lot more to do the same repair. The service center can charge a lot more than a small mom and pop shop.

    I'm sorry but this is condescending and wrong. It costs money for ANY dealership to hire intelligent people, and there are intelligent people working at dealerships (I'm not saying all of them are, just like you can't say all the people working as Tesla technicians are intelligent)

    They don't do valet though, but most dealerships provide loaners.
     
  19. trils0n

    trils0n 2013 P85

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,296
    Location:
    SF Bay Area
    Surprised at the tactic Tesla has taken for defending their own stores. (Not that they should have to defend their business model -- they should be free to choose how to sell their own product)

    I'd think the "We should be able to choose how we want to sell our product" would be a more straightforward argument than "Well, dealers won't make money on service or markup" or "Electric cars are difficult to sell / conflict with selling ICE cars". I guess the conflict is a better argument -- nearly everything good about an electric car highlights a negative element of a gas car, and if gas cars + service are their main business, that results in a conflict.

    No business should be forced into selling to middlemen. That is just ridiculous. But it is exactly the business model the dealers want protected, because they are those legally-protected middlemen.

    As to service: I view the "Tesla as only source of service" as a separate issue that relates to repair rights, not to right of sale. Don't let the dealership lobby conflate those two separate issues. Right to repair laws will have to force Tesla to offer diagnostic software and parts soon enough, regardless of how the cars are sold.
     
    • Like x 1
  20. Lanny

    Lanny @Lanny

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2011
    Messages:
    643
    Location:
    Maryland
    • Like x 2

Share This Page