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Version 9 looks like on its way finally!!

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we're not at the end of the year however, software releases would have zero impact on 3rd quarter financial results.

Software releases could impact financials in two ways:
1. The software has some great new functionality that drives people who hadn't bought the software before to buy it now (applies to both EAP and FSD).
2. They start releasing FSD features that allows them to start recognizing the revenue from everyone who pre-purchased FSD. Note, this only applies if they haven't recognized the revenue from FSD and it is currently listed in their books as customer prepayments (a liability).

Neither of these might apply to this release, but it could apply to future releases.
 
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Software releases could impact financials in two ways:
1. The software has some great new functionality that drives people who hadn't bought the software before to buy it now (applies to both EAP and FSD).
2. They start releasing FSD features that allows them to start recognizing the revenue from everyone who pre-purchased FSD. Note, this only applies if they haven't recognized the revenue from FSD and it is currently listed in their books as customer prepayments (a liability).

Based on my experience owning an S for 5 years, I was thinking thinking they'd never really deliver FSD in the time I'd own a new Tesla car, say the next 4 years. Are they that close to introducing something? And they'll have to upgrade the hardware on cars with EAP and FSD - won't that cost them zillions? I think promising it in this latest generation and upgrading, that worries me about the future cost.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
 
Based on my experience owning an S for 5 years, I was thinking thinking they'd never really deliver FSD in the time I'd own a new Tesla car, say the next 4 years. Are they that close to introducing something?

Elon mentioned months ago v9 would have the first FSD-exclusive features, so...yes?

And they'll have to upgrade the hardware on cars with EAP and FSD - won't that cost them zillions? I think promising it in this latest generation and upgrading, that worries me about the future cost.

If you pre-paid for FSD that includes any needed HW upgrades.

At last report the only thing that will actually need upgrading is the processor to go to V3 of the system- and Tesla developed that in house, and it's a direct swap for the current one.
 
Release notes copied from the model S thread

Version 9.0 - Model S/X pre-AP

Version 9.0 introduces updates to the touchscreen and Tesla mobile app which are designed for an easier and more convenient driving experience. We have also made improvements to Climate, Navigation, Media, and Controls in addition to several safety enhancements.

Version 9.0 - Model S/X AP1

Version 9.0 introduces updates to the touchscreen and Tesla mobile app which are designed for an easier and more convenient driving experience. We have also made improvements to Climate, Navigation, Media, and Controls in addition to several safety enhancements.

Version 9.0 - Model S/X AP2&2.5

Version 9.0 introduces updates to the touchscreen and Tesla mobile app designed for an easier and more convenient experience. For those with Enhanced Autopilot, we are also introducing Navigate on Autopilot (Beta) — our newest Autopilot convenience feature, designed to get you to your destination more efficiently by guiding your car on and off the highway. We have also made improvements to Climate, Navigation, Media, and Controls in addition to several safety enhancements.

Version 9.0 - Model 3

Version 9.0 introduces new applications including Calendar, Energy and Web Browser which can be accessed from the application launcher in the bottom bar. For those with Enhanced Autopilot, we are also introducing Navigate on Autopilot (Beta) — our newest Autopilot convenience feature, designed to get you to your destination more efficiently by guiding your car on and off the highway. Finally, we have made improvements to the Tesla mobile app, Status Bar, Navigation, Climate, Media, and Seatbelt Card in addition to several safety features.

Navigate on Autopilot (Beta) - Model S/X with AP2&2.5, US ONLY!

Introducing Navigate on Autopilot (Beta) — our newest Autopilot convenience feature, designed to get you to your destination more efficiently by guiding your car on and off the highway. Navigate on Autopilot intelligently suggests lane changes to keep you on your route in addition to making adjustments so you don’t get stuck behind slow cars or trucks.
When Navigate on Autopilot is active, a single blue line indicates the path ahead, keeping your car in the lane. Gray lines highlight lane changes for a more efficient driving route. Navigate on Autopilot will also automatically steer toward and take the correct highway interchanges and exits based on your destination.
You can enable Navigate on Autopilot by going to Controls > Autopilot and first enabling Autosteer. For each route where Navigate on Autopilot is available, you have the option of enabling the feature by pressing the button located in the Navigation Turn List.

Navigate on Autopilot (Beta)- Model 3, US ONLY!

Introducing Navigate on Autopilot (Beta) — our newest Autopilot convenience feature, designed to get you to your destination more efficiently by guiding your car on and off the highway. Navigate on Autopilot intelligently suggests lane changes to keep you on your route in addition to making adjustments so you don’t get stuck behind slow cars or trucks.
When Navigate on Autopilot is active, a single blue line indicates the path ahead, keeping your car in the lane. Gray lines highlight lane changes for a more efficient driving route. Navigate on Autopilot will also automatically steer toward and take the correct highway interchanges and exits based on your destination.
You can enable Navigate on Autopilot by going to Controls > Autopilot and first enabling Autosteer. For each route where Navigate on Autopilot is available, you have the option of enabling the feature by pressing the button located in the Navigation Turn List.

Combining Autosteer and Auto Lane Change - All cars with any AP

Autosteer (Beta) and Auto Lane Change settings are now combined under Controls > Autopilot. When Autosteer (Beta) is ON, engaging the turn signal will activate Auto Lane Change to move your car into an adjacent driving lane.

Blindspot Warning - Model S/X with AP2&2.5

To improve safety and increase confidence when changing lanes, the lane line on the instrument panel now turns red when your turn signal is engaged and a vehicle or obstacle is detected in your target lane.

Blindspot Warning - Model 3

To improve safety and increase confidence when changing lanes, the lane line on the touchscreen now turns red when your turn signal is engaged and a vehicle or obstacle is detected in your target lane.

Dashcam - All models with AP2.5

You can now record and store video footage captured by your car’s forward facing camera onto a USB flash drive. Note that you must manually add a base-level folder in the flash drive called “TeslaCam” (without quotation marks) before it can be used for Dashcam. Refer to the Owner’s Manual for details on how to use Dashcam.

Mobile App - All cars

With this car software version, you can now do even more with your vehicle from your mobile app.
You can now start navigation in your car by using the share button in your favorite phone apps. In iOS, you can enable sharing to your vehicle by opening up the app you want to share from, tapping the More button in your sharing menu, and then scrolling to the right until you find your vehicle.
You can also allow your passengers to quickly control the media. Play/pause, previous/skip, and cycle through your media favorites. Note: You can disable this feature by going to Media Settings > Allow Mobile Control.
Whenever there's a software update available for your vehicle, you can conveniently start the update from your phone. A notification will be sent to other drivers of your car, and they’ll have a few minutes to cancel the update from their app.
Note: these features require mobile software version 3.6.0 or above.

Application Launcher - S/X

Located at the bottom of your touchscreen, the new application launcher brings all your apps together in one place. You can also access your last-used app by swiping up on the application launcher icon.

Calendar - Model 3

The Calendar app allows you to view your phone’s calendar for the current and next day. The Calendar is conveniently integrated with Phone and Navigation so you can dial into a meeting or route to your next meeting with a single tap. For events to appear, you must connect your phone to your car via Bluetooth and allow calendar access by enabling Calendar Sync in the Tesla mobile app settings.

Application Launcher - Model 3

Located at the bottom of your touchscreen, the new application launcher brings all your apps together in one place, including your Calendar, Energy, Web Browser, Rear View Camera, Phone and Charging apps. You can also access your last-used app by swiping upward.

Energy App - Model 3

View energy consumption in real time for your Model 3. When there is an active navigation route, touch the Trip tab to view the projected energy consumption for the trip.

Web Browser - Model 3

The Web browser app allows you to access the internet. Navigate to your desired website by entering the URL in the address bar. Easily return to your favorite sites by adding them to your Favorite using the heart icons.

Status Bar - Model 3

The status bar has been rearranged to make the time and temperature easier to view at a glance.

Climate Control - Model 3

It's now easier to direct airflow where you want it with the new Model 3 Airwave visualization. When you're done, you can now simply swipe the Climate panel down to dismiss. The temperature settings on the bottom bar can now be controlled with a simple swipe: swipe to the left to lower the setting, or to the right to raise it. Tapping or pressing and holding the control will continue to work as before. As before, if you'd like to have different passenger and driver temperatures, simply unsync to reveal two temperature settings.

Climate Control - S/X

Climate has been redesigned to be more compact and easier to use.

Climate and Seat Heat - S/X

All of your controls for Climate have been moved to one place. Touch the seat icon to access controls for all seat heaters, steering wheel heater, and wiper heater.

Navigation - S/X

Navigation on your touchscreen now provides more information about upcoming turns—including highway exit information, when applicable. Tap or pull down the turn-by-turn list to see additional details in the full Trip Overview. In addition, Navigation settings, including voice guidance volume, can be quickly accessed by tapping the settings icon directly on the bottom corner of the touchscreen map.

Navigation - M3

Directions have been moved to the left side of the screen, and simplified to display relevant upcoming information—including highway exits, when applicable. Tap or pull down to see additional details in the full Trip Overview. Navigation settings including voice guidance volume can easily be adjusted by tapping the settings icon on the touchscreen map.

Use HOV Lanes - S/X/3 - US, Canada, Mexico

To improve Navigation’s ability to provide relevant instructions, you can now select whether or not your vehicle is eligible for high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes. When enabled, Navigation will route you though HOV lanes. When disabled, Navigation avoids routing you through HOV lanes. Tap the settings icon on the bottom corner of the map then enable or disable Use HOV Lanes as desired.

Traffic View - S/X/3 - US, Canada, Mexico, Germany, France, Spain, Hongkong, Taiwan, Japan

The traffic view has been restyled to further highlight problematic areas. Roads experiencing slower speeds or delays will be emphasized with red and yellow outlines.

Media - S/X - MCU2 - Mexico, China, Hongkong, Taiwan, Japan, Korea

The Media Player now allows for 3 different views: the Miniplayer when you want just the basics; Recent & Favorites when you might want to quickly change what you're listening to; and Browse, for when you're looking for something different. You can easily hide or show the Media player by dragging the window up or down.
To switch sources, tap on the icons on the bottom of the Media player.
Similar to other apps, use the tabs on the left to navigate the Media Player, where you can find your saved Favorites or look for more content.
On the radio, you can now tune directly to a station using Direct Tune. For example, enter "88.5" while you've selected FM and you can listen immediately.

Media - M3 - US, Canada

On the radio, you can now tune directly to a station using Direct Tune. For example, enter "88.5" while you've selected FM and you can listen immediately.
In Media Settings, the Options tab allows you to turn off explicit lyrics with the Explicit Content setting. The DJ commentary button for hearing music news on Streaming stations has also moved to Media>Settings.

Media - S/X - MCU2 - US, Canada

The Media Player now allows for three different views: the Miniplayer with simple controls and more space for viewing your map; Recent & Favorites with your favorites and listening history; and Browse, for discovering something new. You can easily hide or show the Media Player by dragging the window up or down. To switch sources, tap on the desired icon at the bottom of the Media Player.
On the radio, you can now tune directly to a station using Direct Tune. For example, enter "88.5" while you've selected FM and you can listen immediately.
In Media Settings, the Options tab allows you to turn off explicit lyrics with the Explicit Content setting. The DJ commentary button for hearing music news on Streaming stations has also moved to Media>Settings.

Media - S/X - MCU1 - Outside US and Canada

The Media Player now allows for 3 different views: the Miniplayer when you want just the basics; Recent & Favorites when you might want to quickly change what you're listening to; and Browse, for when you're looking for something different. You can easily hide or show the Media player by dragging the window up or down.
To switch sources, tap on the icons on the bottom of the Media player.
Similar to other apps, use the tabs on the left to navigate the Media Player, where you can find your saved Favorites or look for more content.

Media - S/X - MCU1 - US, Canada

The Media Player now allows for three different views: the Miniplayer with simple controls and more space for viewing your map; Recent & Favorites with your favorites and listening history; and Browse, for discovering something new. You can easily hide or show the Media Player by dragging the window up or down. To switch sources, tap on the desired icon at the bottom of the Media Player.
In Media Settings, the Options tab allows you to turn off explicit lyrics with the Explicit Content setting. The DJ commentary button for hearing music news on Streaming stations has also moved to Media>Settings.

Controls - S/X

The Controls panel has been reorganized to make controls and settings easier to find. We have also added Quick Controls that give you quick access to the most commonly used controls.

Seatbelt Card - Model 3

You can now toggle the Rear Seatbelt alerts to mark them as child seats. By adjusting the alert, the Seatbelt Card will only display once per drive cycle when triggered, removing the need to dismiss the alert multiple times.

Obstacle-Aware Acceleration - All cars

Acceleration is automatically limited if an obstacle is detected in front of your vehicle while driving at low speeds. Obstacle-Aware Acceleration can be enabled or disabled in Controls > Autopilot.

TeslAtari - All cars

Play Atari games in your Tesla. Tap the Atari logo in your easter egg tray which can be found by touching the Tesla "T" (top center of the touchscreen). To play, select a game from the menu, enter some quarters and press Start. You can also play in full screen mode while in PARK.

This release contains minor improvements and bug fixes.

 
Just read the release notes....

Looks like people hoping for a much-less-completely-crap media experience are in for disappointment....no changes at all besides being able to direct-tune FM stations and turn off explicit lyrics.

I wonder if the browser is still the antique version in the S/X (probably since no mention of an update for S/X) that doesn't support anything useful like spotify?
 
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Strange that Dashcam is only for 2.5 and not 2. Thought we were told that difference between 2 and 2.5 is negligible.

Yeah especially for the limited functionality it's offering at launch- which suggests there's a lot more advanced features coming in the future that would make the small computing power difference between them relevant.
 
So aside from the Nav/Autopilot addition, is AP improving in any other major way (e.g. starting to use the side cams), or does it just continue incrementally from v8 into v9? I thought it was going to make a major leap in logic and capability.

The blind spot monitoring implementation was something I was looking forward to seeing. I guess a red lane line is better than nothing. Wonder if it's accompanied by a sound.

Also expected more to be voice-controllable, possible that has expanded and we won't know until this gets into more hands...