Everything including Skoda and Kia Soul beat model Y. Why such hatred towards model Y.
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What car awards: Model 3 #1 but model Y #10
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Everything including Skoda and Kia Soul beat model Y. Why such hatred towards model Y.
Rooster6655
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Big hate if the Kia Soul got a higher position, I do agree about the lumpy ride especially when compared to the 3 but really should be compared to the other SUVs which I haven't tried
Jason71
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My parents have a soul. and its a good car for the money they are leasing it for but hard to class it even in the same category as a Y.
Carwow just did a comparison of the Y the Audi and and a Volvo and it won easily. yes they did not rate the ride either but on performance/value/practicality/tech it won hands down. Its all in the eye of the beholder. Though it is hard to fathom how the M3 is No1 overall but the ride pushes the Y down to 10 in just the SUV's.
Maybe reviewers are smarter than we think. I’ve had a Tesla of one type or another for nearly 7 years (MS, M3 & MY), but the ride of our MY after 6 weeks is starting to really get to me on anything but good tarmac. Initially I thought it was absolutely fine but a combination of the ride itself and that causing creaks and rattles from just about everywhere is driving me mad. It’s booked in to see what they can fix but my mate suggested just selling it while I can get my money back. Hopefully they can but the initial honeymoon period has ended quicker than any car I’ve ever owned.
I’ve said it elsewhere but I think the Y suspension will get revised before too long. Perhaps air suspension, or a more compliant passive setup. Your complaint seems to be fairly universal.
I think you’re right. It seemed ok before I bought it, not great but no worse than our Model 3, but that was only a short drive, picked it up and went ‘urghhh’ but the tyres were over inflated. Corrected that and thought that’s better. However after a drive in a friends car last week I realised what I was missing.
Maybe a bit like food where sight, smell as well as taste all play a part, I wonder if ride is not just about feel, it’s also about sound and other senses because either the car has a problem or the jarring over a rough surface which are now accompanied by a creak when they weren’t before seem so much worse now.
I really want to like this car, but it’s challenging me at the moment
I drove an EV6. I really liked it, but as a family car the boot is tiny. The Y is a family wagon compared to the EV6. If you want bikes, surfboards, tents, dog......in a car the Y is in a different category to the EV6.
I have to say I got into my audi A6 (2015) today after driving the y for the last few weeks. The y does not come close in terms of noise dampening. The Audi is so quiet. The y is better then my 2020 M3 for wind noise but the road noise is awful. I only really noticed when going back in the audi. I also have to say the Audis paint is also far more resilient to bird crap. 2015 A6 rarely gets washed by my wife, but leave bird poo on it for a week and not a mark. 24hrs on my Y and it left a mark i could not remove.
Don't get my wrong I love my Tesla for all the new stuff it does much better then the rest. But not on the noise and paint robustness -they could learn from the current manufacturers.
I have to say I got into my audi A6 (2015) today after driving the y for the last few weeks. The y does not come close in terms of noise dampening. The Audi is so quiet. The y is better then my 2020 M3 for wind noise but the road noise is awful. I only really noticed when going back in the audi. I also have to say the Audis paint is also far more resilient to bird crap. 2015 A6 rarely gets washed by my wife, but leave bird poo on it for a week and not a mark. 24hrs on my Y and it left a mark i could not remove.
Don't get my wrong I love my Tesla for all the new stuff it does much better then the rest. But not on the noise and paint robustness -they could learn from the current manufacturers.
WannabeOwner
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Would you consider after-market suspension improvements? (I'm just curious how you would rate that, compared to "trade-in for a different car")
Personally no. I know some do and are happy with mods but insurance, will it actually be better, any debate about warranty claims (M3 for instance had a suspension arm issues, could they claim other suspension changes have caused it) and resale value etc all seem like hassle I’d rather not have.
The trade in option is on the table only because we’re in a bubble where I could probably get £2k more than I paid looking at the market and go back to a M3 or look at a decent MS. I only got rid of the MS because it was coming to the end of the 4 year warranty, the MCU1 issues were being ignored by Tesla, MCU2 upgrade wasn’t an option etc, if it was today I’d probably have kept the car.
Maybe they want some variety? I find even their splits odd. EV6 and Eniro are SUVs but the Ioniq 5 is not? That thing is huge. Crossovers have messed up the whole segmentation
Rooster6655
Active Member
Yes exactly the options for Model Y insurance are already limited unless you have a specialist insurance company or get lucky with one of the main providers it is a pain and probably a bigger pain when it comes to selling the car due to the same insurance issues. I can understand a basic cheap cars to benefit substantially from suspension upgrades but shouldn't be necessary at the Tesla level, it is starting to sound like the suspension isn't fit for purpose.
I like the S but it would have to be a new one with the latest updates.
I think I will keep the Y for 2 years and trade in from there, then keep most of its value and get 2 years extra warranty if I was to get another Tesla. Maybe the bubble will have popped for Tesla by then and they become a customer oriented company and actually give the customer an option to provide feedback!
Why, exactly?Ugh, reading all this is really making me think twice about the MYP I have on order.
I suppose on the plus side I’ve got a good few months to think about it yet…
I'm biased, but I can totally see WhatCar wanting to give it a higher rating but feeling like they can't... because they put the Model 3 in the top spot. They'd have so many absolute ragers emailing them if a Tesla was in the top spot for both tests.
For every negative review, there's a positive one. The Model Y was just given top spot in CarWow's electric SUV test, beating out the Audi and Volvo which were both far more expensive. FWIW, I've always seen WhatCar as having a highly conservative, risk-averse editorial stance. They have a "demographic" they cater for. (Not saying any more on that
). CarWow have also trumped lots of other media outlets by addressing things that most journalists just completely miss. i.e. price comparisons almost NEVER mention the fact that the 55k starting price is more equivalent to a 65-70k spec with other manufacturers.There are brand and EV-specific nuances that a lot of these journalists just still aren't up to speed on yet. Will that stop them spouting their opinions as fact? No... see above: "journalists".
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