If it was that easy to get more range from the front motor, the LR RWD and LR AWD would get the same range. I wish, as I ha e the AWD, but it doesn't seem to be in the cards.
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What happened to MR?
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seattlite2004
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There seems to be a lot of speculation going on in this thread. Personally, I think much of it is wrong.
People seem to be jumping to a lot of conclusions.
People seem to be jumping to a lot of conclusions.
Knightshade
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That is physically impossible without making changes to the car that make 0 sense to do.
Elon just commented on that fact yesterday- that the inability to disconnect the front motor is why the 3 AWD cars get less range than single-motor, and adding the disconnect capacity adds too much cost and complexity for a tiny benefit.
Actually a poster here with the username @GigaGrunt, with a location of nevada, stated there are 3 different battery packs for the Model 3. The SR/SR+ pack, the MR pack, and the LR pack. When asked "what proof do you have" they replied with *wink*.
If anyone takes a second to think about the user name, and the location it will become very obvious that this poster is likely posting with direct knowledge, so I dont think your assertion that SR+ and MR are the same pack is correct.
BluestarE3
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Pretty easy to see from the user name, but I was trying to be a bit subtle because in the thread I was reading, he / she did not come right out and say so... but pretty easy to put together "gigagrunt" and nevada.
The original battery seemed to have two additions that could be added to it. But, if you look at the weight, you can tell what’s in each car right now. That might change later, but they are trying to get cars out fast and make cash using parts they already have. The SR wasn’t ready, so they made the SR+ which is a nonsensical idea otherwise. Having different options adds to the complexity of the manufacturing process. They have sold unlockable batteries before. It’s a good business model.
All sound logic.. however I am going to go with the information from the person who worked at the factory and saw what was in the cars first hand.
Just going off the weight. The LR rwd and LR Awd weigh the same right now. Unless its a mistake that indicates the same car. The sr weighs the same as an mr. Maybe its a mistake on their site. If its not then there’s no other explanation.
Knightshade
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It's absolutely a mistake if they're all the same..(though the MR isn't even on the website anymore)
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Maybe you guys are just shooting the breeze.
For what I am reading, you guys are putting too much thought into the advertised weights and making too many assumption based on it. It is allowable for manufacturers to overstate weights in advertising because for one thing, GVW allows for that.
Hopefully someone isn’t buying one car counting on extra software limited batteries or an extra motor being there, which we know isn’t because disassembled and salvaged RWD have proven that there is no motor there. Seems to be people who look at numbers but don’t look at more obvious sources.
For what I am reading, you guys are putting too much thought into the advertised weights and making too many assumption based on it. It is allowable for manufacturers to overstate weights in advertising because for one thing, GVW allows for that.
Hopefully someone isn’t buying one car counting on extra software limited batteries or an extra motor being there, which we know isn’t because disassembled and salvaged RWD have proven that there is no motor there. Seems to be people who look at numbers but don’t look at more obvious sources.
For the sake of people who are deciding.
Can you please post something that is definitive that isn’t based off of advertised weights. Last we heard, the MR was a LR with dummy cells in the packs so that they could use the same packs for ease of manufacturing.
So now the conversation in this thread is that the SR+ is just a locked MR pack. But for what purpose? It would be just the same for them to put more dummy cells.
Can you please post something that is definitive that isn’t based off of advertised weights. Last we heard, the MR was a LR with dummy cells in the packs so that they could use the same packs for ease of manufacturing.
So now the conversation in this thread is that the SR+ is just a locked MR pack. But for what purpose? It would be just the same for them to put more dummy cells.
Originally I had assumed that they would... Then was surprised when the front motor was old-style induction.
But I heard something along the lines of "only the induction motor can 'torque sleep' " so maybe at least one of the motors has to be induction in a front/rear dual drive system.
The fastest way to clear out the MR is to sell it at a discount. The difference between 240 and 265 miles is nominal at best. Just reprogram some MR’s to get rid of them by disabling some features and sell them off at cost. Focus on LR and SR only. Maybe the Lr rwd doesn’t have the motor and they are selling it at the same weight? Maybe its a mistake? Maybe they want to simplify production with only two versions of model 3? Maybe they are using dummy cells and weights though unlikely for small differences. It’s all speculation, but since ap and fsd follow the software upgrade model, why not do that with more features and get cash from owners later, especially if the cost is small and that cost is absorbed by simplifying production?
Again, I am speculating.
shinebox
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If you are wishing that the SR+ is a software locked full premium sound, I’m sorry to say that its been confirmed on a youtube video that SR+ does not have the sub, amp and possibly rear speakers.
The SR+ might be the worst idea any car company has ever had. They probably software disabled the speakers, but even if they removed them, which I doubt, it is still a midrange car. $2,000 for premium interior, almost the same range, and close to the same sound. Give me a break. It’s a fire sale. No other company would do this. I would trade back my car in a second to buy one that looks exactly the same with a little less range and not quite as amazing sound to save $12,000.
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