Please forgive if this has already been discussed. I searched but didn't find it.
I love my Tesla, I love the company, and I'm long the stock. But I'm genuinely worried that "full self driving" is a promise Tesla can't deliver. Not just that it will take a long time, but that the hardware literally can't do it.
I'm worried that with "full self driving", paying customer expect their car to eventually FULLY. SELF. DRIVE. To me that means you can send it across town by itself in all traffic situations. But that's not just my interpretation, it's the interpretation that Tesla is encouraging. The name itself implies this. Elon once tweeted that the vision for summon is that the car will find you anywhere in the country. (Although obviously, it would need someone to charge it.) Elon has also talked about sending our cars to work as a ride-sharing service. Last I heard Elon is sticking by the idea that autonomy will be "feature complete" by the end of this year.
I'm sorry, but no way. No. Way.
Yes, I've seen videos of a Tesla driving itself across town. A trip without road construction, crossing animals, narrow roads, pedestrians jaywalking, shovels that fell out of the last pickup truck... With perfectly-painted lanes doesn't count from where I sit.
I've been writing software for over 35 years, and I'm currently a driving school owner. Autopilot is great. (Although its name is misleading.) But we humans deal with an infinite number of complex hazards in ways no computer could ever deal with UNTIL they become capable of fully recognizing the "real world context" of complex situations, which would require a "nearly self-aware" system.
Consider the hand gestures of a cop or road worker directing traffic. Consider the difference between a rag in the road versus a shard of metal. The presence of children throwing a ball on a front lawn. Recognition that when a dome light is on in a parked car, its door is likely to open. Consider that we humans recognize "the edge of the road" by very subtle visual differences between asphalt and gravel.
The way the car perceives its environment is displayed on the screen. Try covering your windshield and driving only from what you see there. (No, don't try that.) I've noticed that the cars lack proximity sensors on the side, which is probably why I've seen videos of summon hitting curbs near the rocker panels.
If you, dear reader, disagree with me and you feel the cars we own will eventually be able to drive themselves almost anywhere on public streets, that's okay. Either I've convinced you or I haven't... But my question is this: What happens if, say 2-5 years from now, those who paid $6,000 or $7,000, many of whom will have sold their car or totaled it, realize that what they got for that money wasn't what they were led to expect? What if they express their dissatisfaction en-masse, in court?
Has Tesla protected itself legally from this scenario? That is my question and the purpose of this thread.
P.S. Tesla cars are by far the best electric cars available, and they should sell them as just that. I just feel they should only take your money for what the car IS, not what they HOPE it will be. If I'm totally wrong, I'd gladly pay $7K to for a car which can reliably get me anywhere in town while I nap in the back seat. But not until such a feature exists.
I love my Tesla, I love the company, and I'm long the stock. But I'm genuinely worried that "full self driving" is a promise Tesla can't deliver. Not just that it will take a long time, but that the hardware literally can't do it.
I'm worried that with "full self driving", paying customer expect their car to eventually FULLY. SELF. DRIVE. To me that means you can send it across town by itself in all traffic situations. But that's not just my interpretation, it's the interpretation that Tesla is encouraging. The name itself implies this. Elon once tweeted that the vision for summon is that the car will find you anywhere in the country. (Although obviously, it would need someone to charge it.) Elon has also talked about sending our cars to work as a ride-sharing service. Last I heard Elon is sticking by the idea that autonomy will be "feature complete" by the end of this year.
I'm sorry, but no way. No. Way.
Yes, I've seen videos of a Tesla driving itself across town. A trip without road construction, crossing animals, narrow roads, pedestrians jaywalking, shovels that fell out of the last pickup truck... With perfectly-painted lanes doesn't count from where I sit.
I've been writing software for over 35 years, and I'm currently a driving school owner. Autopilot is great. (Although its name is misleading.) But we humans deal with an infinite number of complex hazards in ways no computer could ever deal with UNTIL they become capable of fully recognizing the "real world context" of complex situations, which would require a "nearly self-aware" system.
Consider the hand gestures of a cop or road worker directing traffic. Consider the difference between a rag in the road versus a shard of metal. The presence of children throwing a ball on a front lawn. Recognition that when a dome light is on in a parked car, its door is likely to open. Consider that we humans recognize "the edge of the road" by very subtle visual differences between asphalt and gravel.
The way the car perceives its environment is displayed on the screen. Try covering your windshield and driving only from what you see there. (No, don't try that.) I've noticed that the cars lack proximity sensors on the side, which is probably why I've seen videos of summon hitting curbs near the rocker panels.
If you, dear reader, disagree with me and you feel the cars we own will eventually be able to drive themselves almost anywhere on public streets, that's okay. Either I've convinced you or I haven't... But my question is this: What happens if, say 2-5 years from now, those who paid $6,000 or $7,000, many of whom will have sold their car or totaled it, realize that what they got for that money wasn't what they were led to expect? What if they express their dissatisfaction en-masse, in court?
Has Tesla protected itself legally from this scenario? That is my question and the purpose of this thread.
P.S. Tesla cars are by far the best electric cars available, and they should sell them as just that. I just feel they should only take your money for what the car IS, not what they HOPE it will be. If I'm totally wrong, I'd gladly pay $7K to for a car which can reliably get me anywhere in town while I nap in the back seat. But not until such a feature exists.