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What to do?!?!? 2013 Model S 60 Battery fail
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Huachipato
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OP - I'm just curious if you got the car back yet and impressions if any perceived battery related changes to the car.
Honestly one of the very reasons I haven't pulled the trigger yet, it would kill me to see $50-90k suddenly missing from my savings when I think how far that could go in retirement instead! If I could find a 48-60 month loan under 2% I'd grab it, but the few available are with CUs out of state that won't allow me to join to get that rate...
Tesla offered financing through Chase back in 2017. My rate is 0.99%. This is the only instance where I wish I could borrow more than the car is worth. Like 100 million more.
I've had two MCU's die. Cost me thousands. No moving parts.
Driving a Tesla is a dream. Owning one is a headache.
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dhanson865
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and @marlonjm2k
If a car is considered totaled by the insurance company and you have a pack in it that is worth more the correct move is to buy it from the insurance company. You have the first right to do so. The options are
* take the full amount from insurance but lose the car (they sell it at auction)
* take the net amount from insurance and keep the car (net being = what insurance would pay - price to buy the totaled vehicle from the insurance company before it goes to auction)
note if you buy it back you get a salvaged title. But in theory you could have tens of thousands more in a new battery pack than insurance would pay for (especially if you went with a 60 to 85 or 60 to 90 upgrade, but it could just be the difference in age of old car vs new pack). You can then sell the totaled car and buy another (used or new).
Unfortunately not always an option. When mine was totaled they refused to let me keep it and I offered to buy it back. They said in Illinois if the car is less that 8 years old the insurance company can't sell it back. My only option is to buy it back from auction through a broker. I didn't verify this law but I hope they wouldn't lie to me.
That is a strange law, but it is true. It was designed to combat chop-shops from profiting.
http://insurance.illinois.gov/AutoInsurance/total_loss_auto.pdf
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No kidding. Hard to believe there was some guy on here adamantly saying he wouldn’t take a loan at 0% and claiming he was a financial genius.
Yes, you've missed the fact that the vast majority of Teslas in the wild DO have an 8-year, infinite-mile battery warranty--the MS 60 is an anomaly, and especially this case.
(As for the Model 3, their batteries are field serviceable and have 4 modules that Elon suggests can be replaced at greatly reduced cost.)
ahkahn
Active Member
Yeah, I got in on that deal also. The only catch is that our cars have depreciated much more than anticipated, so that was probably the offset of the savings...
ahkahn
Active Member
They are all time limited, whichever occurs first. A semi can and often goes 250,000 miles per year, so at that rate a million miles is only 4 years.
Why would you say I missed that?
My statement on repairs is not based on batteries needing to be paid for.
In 2 years and under 30k mine has needed $3200 in repairs(with me doing the brake labor) and $800 in maintenance service and that is not including tires which it eats faster than most cars.
ahkahn
Active Member
A MS60 is a bigger risk given your points, but that's also why the risk is reflected in the used vehicle valuations. They are in the upper-20's and lower-30's to buy one.
Further, a Tesla isn't any more risky to own than any other vehicle. My wife's old Lincoln blew a transmission at 20k miles and had to be rebuilt. At 52k miles it went out again and had to be rebuilt again (had to fight for the warranty to cover it). We dumped the car at 75k miles because the tranny was starting to skip again. These things could happen to any car.
ahkahn
Active Member
The OEM Goodyear tires eat waaaay too fast. I've seen 20-30k miles is the norm and mine were 28k miles. I replaced with Pirelli Cinturatos and currently have 45k miles on them and they're probably around 60% worn. I'll get easily 70k on this set of tires.
dark cloud
Active Member
With 2 or more drivers driving the same truck, yes.
That is the high-end life expectancy of a diesel semi: Some long haul trucks go several million miles, but some local in town trucks last less than 300,000 miles. When the engine wears out from what I can see a new one is over $20000.
Comparing apples to apples though the warranty on the Cummins X15 (semi-truck engine) is 2 years 250,000 miles. I think the base Tesla warranty will be twice that?
You’ve probably been told to start looking for a new car once your vehicle begins to reach the 150,000 to 200,000 mile mark. Engines can’t last forever. However, the monster engineering that goes into building a semi-truck allows them to last for upwards of 750,000 miles, but some have been known to push a million. Each semi-truck drives an average of 45,000 miles per year, making the average lifetime of a semi-truck 15-16 years.
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My tires consistently lasted just over 40k miles on each set. I could have gone further but they were getting close to the wear bars. All original suspension never adjusted since built in 2014. No uneven tire wear either. Perhaps mine was an anomaly. The 8 year battery warranty is essentially worthless now with the recent updates clearly aimed to get the battery past the warranty period while reducing the usefulness of the car through voltage reductions, charge speed reductions and regen reductions. It seems the warranty now only covers completely dead batteries.
ucmndd
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The warranty always only covered completely dead batteries.
