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It’s 6+ months away for sure. No one can really say whether it’s worth waiting for (from your perspective).Just ordered (another) MY since i just sold my 2020 for more than I bought it for.. Just curious if it's worth waiting for this new battery, or if it's still 6+ months away.
Do you mind sharing how you went about selling yours?Just ordered (another) MY since i just sold my 2020 for more than I bought it for.. Just curious if it's worth waiting for this new battery, or if it's still 6+ months away.
Agree, I don’t see new cells in the Y for at least a year. They will be more focused on getting those for the cybertruck vs Y.Given the discussion during the Tesla earnings call about the 2170 battery backup plan for giga-Austin Model Y's, it seems likely it will be well into 2022. Musk talking about backup plans likely means that the "backup plan" is the current plan; especially given comments during the earnings call about the production challenges remaining to be addressed for the 4680.
I don’t think at all. It is software controlled. Added range and structure pack is the benefit.How much faster will the model Y be with the new cells you guys think??
Yes, if the 4680 was ready for production the CT would have remained the top priority focus for giga-Austin production.Agree, I don’t see new cells in the Y for at least a year. They will be more focused on getting those for the cybertruck vs Y.
It won't be faster initially. Elon may decide to sell a ludicrous version, who knows, but that will be a year or more later after initially launched. Initial production is expected by October. Very small numbers, perhaps just goes to employees. May not have 4680 cells by that time, but likely a few cars with 4680 before end of year. Will take 11 months after start of production before reaching full volume production. So September of 2022 before readily available.Just ordered (another) MY since i just sold my 2020 for more than I bought it for.. Just curious if it's worth waiting for this new battery, or if it's still 6+ months away.
Even if true, I would expect any available 4680 to be limited to Performance MY with premium pricing. It doesn't sound like everything is ready to fulfill hundreds of thousands of orders of MY, even without CT. The fact that they have 2170 "back up plan", as mentioned earlier, indicates not even Tesla is confident they can get 4680 ready for the masses this year. Previously Elon stated Giga Austin was all 4680, but not now.Rumor is that there is already a production-spec mule(s) riding around with the 4680 and new casting. I'd be shocked if we don't see it by the end of this year.
If you look at the price of M3SR+ vs M3LR there is a $10k price difference for 90mi. more range (263 vs. 353). I believe the price difference has historically been $9k before the recent price changes. That puts the price of every additional mile at ~$100-$111.11.I would love to see a LR+ version with ~420 miles of range and acceleration boost for $5-6K more than LR now. This would slot in nicely as the LR would be $53,990K, LR+ $58,990 and P $60,990. In this scenario optioned up on a LR+ it would be = to P cost with more range but less performance...
Austin is literally building test Model Y's rn for training, with a suspected ramp up for production models by October/November. Elon has also confirmed the Model Y's have taken precedent of Cyber Truck and they will be made at Austin with 4680's from the start. The writing is on the wall. I expect this becomes much more apparent as we get closer and closer to October, going into Q4.
Dents in the press after calendaring sounds like one the simplest things to take care of. Use harder or thicker more durable press material? Heat the cathode material? Insure cathode material is uniform? Change the press roles regularly and reform the old ones?... To me that doesn't sound like Giga Texas is going to be pumping out 4680 Model Ys at the start - maybe just some prototypes for a bit, before transitioning. ...
I’m sure it is just an example. I imagine if it were simple it would not have been a problem. I have no opinion on what the timeframe may be. But new tooling takes time, has to be validated, regression tested, etc.Many simple solutions to that problem.