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MassModel3
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I caught that, too. I can't help but wonder how he'd have inside info and a collection of pictures that nobody in THIS country can manage to get. Not buying it unless I see it.
As is frequently said on this forum, if there's no pictures, it never happened!
Muskol
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NigelM
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I'm not exactly sure what this proves. It's quite simple to make a 3D-style modeling from a photo. I haven't spent much time on this, but I could snap a photo in Vegas of the existing car, skin it, and post it up here as well. Would it be any different? I don't know. Regardless, my BS detector is going off.
X battery packs
I've been asked about X battery options and I'd like for everyone to get the answer.
The model X will have only 85 and 60 battery.
The form factor has changed slightly. Comparing to 2012-S, the batteries are roughly 20% better. However instead of putting more batteries in the car, the efficiency is used to take weight out. When you model battery size vs. range there is a point at which increasing battery size has diminishing returns (due to added weight). That point rests almost squarely at 85kwhr for the next 3 years. Current improvements in battery energy density are not best used to add more pack power, but to reduce the weight of the vehicle allowing longer range with the same 85kwhr pack.
X is slightly overweight as it stands now and every attempt is being made to save weight wherever possible. Considering it is a much larger car, the efficiency gains in batteries will show themselves when it achieves the same range as the S.
I've been asked about X battery options and I'd like for everyone to get the answer.
The model X will have only 85 and 60 battery.
The form factor has changed slightly. Comparing to 2012-S, the batteries are roughly 20% better. However instead of putting more batteries in the car, the efficiency is used to take weight out. When you model battery size vs. range there is a point at which increasing battery size has diminishing returns (due to added weight). That point rests almost squarely at 85kwhr for the next 3 years. Current improvements in battery energy density are not best used to add more pack power, but to reduce the weight of the vehicle allowing longer range with the same 85kwhr pack.
X is slightly overweight as it stands now and every attempt is being made to save weight wherever possible. Considering it is a much larger car, the efficiency gains in batteries will show themselves when it achieves the same range as the S.
This would appear to be a CAD model. It would take an individual weeks to produce a model with this level of detail.
NigelM
Recovering Member
So you'd imagine they could do a better job of smudging over the falcon wing door seam.
I realize the source is unproven, but this all seems believable. Tesla likely has already shared the design with partners for purposes of developing third party accessories. They have said as much with their email indicating they were working on rack solutions, and there are reports of least one rack manufacturer already listing the 2015 Model X in their catalog.
These renderings seem consistent with the shadowy teaser photo that they sent out in November in terms of seat profiles and overall shape. I remember noticing in this photo that the nose cone appears to be missing when compared side-by-side with the original design.
This mysterious insiderinfo seems worth listening to, and I'm interested to see what else he provides.
These renderings seem consistent with the shadowy teaser photo that they sent out in November in terms of seat profiles and overall shape. I remember noticing in this photo that the nose cone appears to be missing when compared side-by-side with the original design.
This mysterious insiderinfo seems worth listening to, and I'm interested to see what else he provides.
NigelM
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Nubo
Test Mule
This is fun! I wonder what was blacked out? Perhaps the solution to the "ski rack problem"?
NigelM
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mikes_fsd
Banned
That is a pano roof over the front seats!
Definitely new - and adds to the weight savings bit he posted about with battery size staying at 60 and 85
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If you look closely at the edges you can see he missed some sort of mount. it does look like an aftermarket addon was blacked out!
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