Maybe someone (NWdiver) can help me understand why this is happening. I would have thought that now that solar panels are less expensive and more people are installing them companies could still be competitive and also make a profit.
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regardless of the fact that panels may be less expense the costs associated with retrofitting a home to run off of solar is still too high for the vast majority of people. until the costs become competitive with other sources of energy the solar industry will find little acceptance amongst the majority of consumers.Maybe someone (NWdiver) can help me understand why this is happening. I would have thought that now that solar panels are less expensive and more people are installing them companies could still be competitive and also make a profit.
misinformed consumers? the math doesn't work, any consumer with any sort of financial common sense would walk away from installing solar in most parts of the country because the efficiencies offered by installing solar and ROI are just not there. that reality isn't confusing at all.
Maybe someone (NWdiver) can help me understand why this is happening. I would have thought that now that solar panels are less expensive and more people are installing them companies could still be competitive and also make a profit.
MOST is the operative word.You surely aren't talking about So Cal, my ROI will be met this year (4th year) and it's all gravy from now on.
Because lots of solar companies are going out of business!Why do you assume that no one is making money?
There is no economy of scale for residential solar. So the big companies struggle due to a faulty business model. There are also no significant barriers to entry to the residential solar biz, so good average margins are not sustainable.
A small efficient company with low customer acquisition costs can provide the owner/manager with a decent living. Just like a small electrical contractor or HVAC company. There is nothing unique about mainstream solar.
Tesla can probably be successful in solar due to differentiation. Solarcity was not substantially differentiated.
Can you cite some of those examples of analyst optimism for us? I am planning to install rooftop PV and I would like to select modules and inverter from a manufacturer that is likely still to be in business should I ever need to exercise warranty rights.US Manufacturers were/are being severely undercut on pricing by Chinese PV manufacturing firms.
Recent analysts reads on the industry indicates we might have finally turned a corner, with profitability finally stabilizing for the the larger players (SunPower, Solar City, etc.)
I highly recommend Sun Power, their equipment is some of the best and they back up their products.Can you cite some of those examples of analyst optimism for us? I am planning to install rooftop PV and I would like to select modules and inverter from a manufacturer that is likely still to be in business should I ever need to exercise warranty rights.
Thanks
Why is the yield so low compared to your usage? Do you have a small roof or are you consuming vast amounts of electricity to run AC? Or?MOST is the operative word.
I live in FLORIDA, nicknamed the SUNSHINE state.
on my home, that has fairly good exposure to sunlight the solar systems I've seen generally will only supply about 1/3 of my needs, most days, that doesn't appeal to me and at those levels it would be 15+ years to see any financial savings. sorry but for me and many many others the numbers just don't work. and I am going to assume the numbers are less friendly to vast majority of people in the US who do not share our wonderful climates and sunlight.
With respect, that is an endorsement of past corporate behavior, not financial viability. I too like SunPower's products and the fact that they are manufactured under excellent environmental standards, but in the past two years plunging module prices have saddled the company with many millions of dollars of debt. Will they still exist when one of my modules fails? I'd feel better if smart money people liked their chances of survival.I highly recommend Sun Power, their equipment is some of the best and they back up their products.
I understand that and it is the reason for my post, if Sun Power goes under I wonder who in the solar industry will survive.With respect, that is an endorsement of past corporate behavior, not financial viability. I too like SunPower's products and the fact that they are manufactured under excellent environmental standards, but in the past two years plunging module prices have saddled the company with many millions of dollars of debt. Will they still exist when one of my modules fails? I'd feel better if smart money people liked their chances of survival.