Why so many 21" Ubertines for sale?

[whydontwe]

I see several posts a day here on TMC, Facebook, and OfferUp with folks trying to sell their new sets. Why is that?

 

[MatildaModelY]

They are heavy, loud, have less range, and tire options aren’t as plentiful.

 

[terranx]

A good chunk of people want a MYP (if for no other reason than delivery time is much sooner), but don't want 21" wheels.

 

[Daekwan]

They are heavy, loud, have less range, and tire options aren’t as plentiful.

Great summary.

Specifically, they weigh almost 40lbs each,
There's only one option for factory sized all-season tires and that just showed up two months ago
No tire rotation ability with directional tires like the summer Pirellis that Tesla used to put on the MYP
All tire options for 21" wheels are much more expensive than they are for smaller wheels

I'm really surprised Tesla doesnt offer the option for the 20" Inductions instead. I'd think a lot of people would choose them over the Ultraturbines.

 

[whydontwe]

Are all the tires the same size?

 

[Daekwan]

Nope.. I believe its 255's up front.. 275s rear.. staggered.

 

[MatildaModelY]

Nope.. I believe its 255's up front.. 275s rear.. staggered.

Correct.
255/35R21
275/35R21

 

[HotIce]

The 20's on my Long Range have a somewhat stiff ride. I can't imagine what the 21's are like. My assumption is ride comfort.

 

[thesmokingman]

I see several posts a day here on TMC, Facebook, and OfferUp with folks trying to sell their new sets. Why is that?

Have you been in one in LA? LA roads are cratastic. I could not imagine living in LA on ubers.

 

[TomServo]

There is a price to pay for the cool factor.

 

[Fourdoor]

I sold mine as fast as I could find a good set of Gemini's and find a buyer for the Uberturbine's. In a strait line the Gemini's with all season rubber have better acceleration than the Uberturbine's on high performance summer only rubber (as shown on my draggy). I would have sold even faster but I was trying to find out if 2021 M3 18" aero wheels (the new stronger ones, good load rating for MY) would fit the MYP if I used spacers in the back to move them out from the hub a bit for brake caliper clearance. I was never able to get a good answer so settled for the Gemini's.

Keith

 

[Jersey_guy_202]

The 20's on my Long Range have a somewhat stiff ride. I can't imagine what the 21's are like. My assumption is ride comfort.

New Michelin AS is really nice, no complaints on ride comfort with uber.

 

[Daekwan]

I sold mine as fast as I could find a good set of Gemini's and find a buyer for the Uberturbine's. In a strait line the Gemini's with all season rubber have better acceleration than the Uberturbine's on high performance summer only rubber (as shown on my draggy). I would have sold even faster but I was trying to find out if 2021 M3 18" aero wheels (the new stronger ones, good load rating for MY) would fit the MYP if I used spacers in the back to move them out from the hub a bit for brake caliper clearance. I was never able to get a good answer so settled for the Gemini's.

Keith

Awesome to hear that Gemini's would fit with the MYP brakes!

What times did you get on draggy? I've heard as low as 3.2 seconds for 0-60 with lightweight 18" or 19" wheels

 

[goin2drt]

Seller here:

1. For a DD we wanted a "square" set up for rotation and longevity.
2. Don't really care for the looks of any of the Tesla stock wheels.
3. Wanted to go down to 20" for comfort and wearability. Actually like the look of 21" better but again this is a DD so need practicality.
4. Do not like the "stretched" look.
5. Added benefit of all the above is a huge weight savings. Fronts with tires weigh 65lbs and rears are 70lbs. New set up is 50lbs so 70lbs of unsprung weight savings. That should be worth a mile extra of range ;-)

 

[Polymer]

The Y already has a relatively bumpy ride and the Ubertines just add to that....

It'll be interesting to see what happens w/ the AS tires...sounds like it has been making a pretty big difference...

 

[WyomingEV]

Anyone out there know if the Model 3 19" sport wheels will work on a MYP? Wasn't sure about weight and brake size...

 

[Fourdoor]

Awesome to hear that Gemini's would fit with the MYP brakes!

What times did you get on draggy? I've heard as low as 3.2 seconds for 0-60 with lightweight 18" or 19" wheels

I have a couple threads about using the Draggy on these forums, one of them shows the difference between the stock wheels and the Geminis.

Keith

 

[ScoobyDoo82]

Awesome to hear that Gemini's would fit with the MYP brakes!

What times did you get on draggy? I've heard as low as 3.2 seconds for 0-60 with lightweight 18" or 19" wheels

Why wouldn’t they fit with the MYP brakes? It’s the exact same calipers but just in a red-branded finish. The rotors are (very)slightly thicker - that’s it. MYLR gets the same Brembo 4-piston calipers as the MYP. It’s just the color and few millimeters thicker rotor. The MYLR’s calipers fit the Gemini’s with lots of room to spare. The only performance benefit with the fancy red MYP brakes is the better cooling on track days. It’s crazy that more people don’t know this.. The information is all there when comparing the specs on Tesla’s site.

 

[Fourdoor]

Why wouldn’t they fit with the MYP brakes? It’s the exact same calipers but just in a red-branded finish. The rotors are (very)slightly thicker - that’s it. MYLR gets the same Brembo 4-piston calipers as the MYP. It’s just the color and few millimeters thicker rotor. The MYLR’s calipers fit the Gemini’s with lots of room to spare. The only performance benefit with the fancy red MYP brakes is the better cooling on track days. It’s crazy that more people don’t know this.. The information is all there when comparing the specs on Tesla’s site.

Not correct.

The REAR calipers on the MYP are larger than the rear calipers on the MY LR, and in fact the MYP rear calipers have a weird kick out on one end that actually makes your limiting factor on wheels weather or not they will fit over the REAR calipers on the MYP. For example, the 18" aero wheels from a M3 will fit on the front and rear of the MY LR, but they will not fit on the rear of the MYP.

Keith

 

[ScoobyDoo82]

Anyone out there know if the Model 3 19" sport wheels will work on a MYP? Wasn't sure about weight and brake

Not correct.

The REAR calipers on the MYP are larger than the rear calipers on the MY LR, and in fact the MYP rear calipers have a weird kick out on one end that actually makes your limiting factor on wheels weather or not they will fit over the REAR calipers on the MYP. For example, the 18" aero wheels from a M3 will fit on the front and rear of the MY LR, but they will not fit on the rear of the MYP.

Keith

Interesting. This wasn’t the case with a 2020 MYP that we just sold. The rear calipers didn’t have any odd shape that limited the wheels.