Yeah, but like I’ve pointed out before - Mercedes has picked the easiest possible subset of conditions for Level 3 and plain Autopilot has been able to handle those conditions for years. The obstacle is not a technical one.LIDAR.
Just kidding
I think it's for the same reason they don't have it in the US, it's really hard to do.
How do you know the reliability of Autopilot in those conditions?
US is also much more litigious.LIDAR.
Just kidding
I think it's for the same reason they don't have it in the US, it's really hard to do.
Which conditions are you talking about? I'm primarily basing it on my use of autopilot in the last 2 years. Admittedly anecdotal but I've had zero safety interventions using autopilot in over 2 years. This is autopilot as a whole, not just restricting to 30MPH on odd numbered highways with no exits closer than 30 miles, no accidents, no clouds, no children and no giraffes.
Yes. If I were an automaker I would be very hesitant to roll out anything like this that increases liability. This is part of what I meant when I said the issues were not technical ones.
People don't get this, and I know it's hard to get because almost everybody outside the industry makes the same wrong conclusion. 2 years is a tiny fraction of what you need to be confident in it. You need a whole lifetime. Waymo has done a dozen lifetimes, and on city streets, not just highways and they don't think they are ready for production yet. People drive for an hour with FSD and it does OK and they think it's doing great. They are not. No one human's experiences with the system can reach a conclusion that it works. (Only that it doesn't, if it fails even once in that lifetime.)
1. You say the issue is not technical yet the only technical reason to not have a L3 system is reliability and taking liability of any arising issues denotes confidence that your system is reliable to a great degree. And it is a myth that the US is more litigious than Europe.
Looks like the first one crashed into a Tesla. Mercedes wasn't in automated drive. Maybe the Mercedes driver forcibly merged into the Tesla's occupied lane?
Sounds like they just drove into side of the Tesla. It's weird that they have to report collisions on city streets when they're testing a highway only system. Or collisions when the system isn't even on for that matter (though I guess that's to prevent claiming the system wasn't on to avoid reporting collisions).
I'm looking for the article that says yet another Tesla was involved in a collision, and police are investigating if AP was engaged at the time.
Yes, the problem is that they have got the legislation in place to utilise it in certain circumstances. To me that is a problem because I think it’s as far as most European governments will go…and they will consider Tesla FSD Beta a step too far
They've already increased the limit to 130km/h so regulations are still ahead of what has been achieved.
I didn't see the Mercedes anywhere in this, I was looking for the Mercedes hitting the Tesla.
Yes - this is one of the reasons levels are stupid. Infact the title of this thread is exhibit A.
It's now 130km/h. Mercedes system < legal limit.
Yes, it is extremely limited. I would note that the L2 system is limited to 125mph (50mph faster than Autopilot).
