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Will the free FSD trial convince you to purchase FSD?
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With the subscription at $99CAD I will for sure buy it for my summer road trip. But I really only want EAP, not FSD for that. I'll probably buy a month once in a while when a big update comes out just to see how far it has progressed.
If it was still non-subscription in Canada I would never touch it.
If it was still non-subscription in Canada I would never touch it.
CaptUAL
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It convinced me it was not worth spending any extra money on. I don’t want to experiment with my expensive car or the safety of others.
You can't take your hand off the wheel either. Driving is less stressful and less tiring with an assistance program such as this. If you are driving a long distance, you will be less exhausted when you arrive. I already find that just with Autopilot.
And with the subscription you don't have to pay over $1000 each year. You can just pay for it when you need it or when you want it.
With them forcing the 1 pull engagement vs 2 pull drives me nuts and made me disable it even though I'm paying the MTM sub. If it doesn't go back soon I'll cancel my sub.
"Driving is less stressful and less tiring with an assistance program such as this. If you are driving a long distance, you will be less exhausted when you arrive."
Might I suggest that if/when FSD makes a decision (overtaking/lane changes/speed changes) the driver will need to monitor the cars decision even more closely than were he/she to do it themselves because when the driver does it - it is a pre planned intentional decision and you know what you are going to do.
Compared to a computer making these decisions and you do not know what the outcome will be. Consequently the stress level by default will rise - no?
The car only has to make one false decision for the driver not to trust it again. Supervision will become the default setting and this brings with it a heightened degree of arousal.
So using FSD on any journey never mind long journeys - to reduce stress ......is a misnomer.
No-one can/should 'switch off' with FSD engaged (hence why they require you to be a nano second behind the controls).
Musk must think you are a cash cow dream!
It defies logic!
Might I suggest that if/when FSD makes a decision (overtaking/lane changes/speed changes) the driver will need to monitor the cars decision even more closely than were he/she to do it themselves because when the driver does it - it is a pre planned intentional decision and you know what you are going to do.
Compared to a computer making these decisions and you do not know what the outcome will be. Consequently the stress level by default will rise - no?
The car only has to make one false decision for the driver not to trust it again. Supervision will become the default setting and this brings with it a heightened degree of arousal.
So using FSD on any journey never mind long journeys - to reduce stress ......is a misnomer.
No-one can/should 'switch off' with FSD engaged (hence why they require you to be a nano second behind the controls).
Musk must think you are a cash cow dream!
It defies logic!
The free trial has multiple purposes. First off is to get people hooked like a proper dopeman and earn some quick cash. One video I watched suggested the FSD revenue would be an estimated $600 million annually if there is a 25% take rate putting 500K cars on the road with FSD, about a 10% boost in profit. The bigger motivation is collecting more data to refine the system and get to the next level, that will be the real revenue generator with the robo taxi and FSD licensing to other companies. I saw a video about the number of miles driven on FSD had just reached 1 billion, with the free trials and now $99 subscription it shouldn’t take too long to reach 2 billion, 5 billion, 10 billion, etc. 500K cars driving just 2000 miles per year on FSD would be 1 billion miles per year. The regulatory hurdles of L3 and beyond will be steep, when the machines get to the point where they drive safer that the meat bags behind the wheel there will be a change.
mspohr
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When you drive manually with no assistance, you must continually make small adjustments to steering and throttle (and brake) to stay between the lines and at a safe distance from the car ahead. You focus is on the short distance between the lines and also the car ahead. This is tedious and tiring, especially on long drives.
Even basic AP takes over these tasks for you allowing you to focus more on "the big picture" ... cars in adjacent lanes, further ahead and behind and oncoming traffic. It really is much easier to drive this way.
mspohr
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All Teslas have AP and since that provides the bulk of the benefit I'll stick with that.
I view the rest of the "features" as party tricks which are appropriate for the robotaxi.
I did a 164 mile round trip today, much of the highway portion using FSD. When I was a mile from home the car decided I wasn’t paying enough attention (I had a hand on the wheel and was looking at the road) and kicked off the FSD generating the message pictured below. I don’t think I was doing anything at that specific time to trigger it. Earlier in the drive I tested the system a few times on the highway by squinting to make it look like my eyes were closed or looking in the wrong direction. Is it a specific instance or more like a scorecard for the trip that causes it to shut off? If I hit magic number 5 can I have the SC reset it, or is FSD dead for good?
mspohr
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Anybody know how to trigger the auto park to work?
Driving through a parking lot doesn't do anything.
Driving through a parking lot doesn't do anything.
FSD is much better than AP for basic driving like accelerating and stopping in traffic and lane positioning. I did not know this until I got the 30 day trial. It really is quite a nice improvement.
If I come to a stop in the parking lot it starts highlighting parking spots for me to choose from.
You have to drive very slow. It works much better if you have a vision only car and will show you a bunch of spots to choose. If you have USS sensors then it will only see one spot at a time and just puts a small "P" in a circle symbol on the screen that you have to touch to initiate the prompts. You basically have to drive past the spot, then the P pops up, then once you click to initiate it backs in. It doesn't work on angled spots.
mspohr
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The auto lane changes are nice.
I don't do much freeway driving so not much value. I might use it on long road trips.
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