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    New Nose Option for Older Model S

    Amazing. Looks like the production version matches the concept version, Very rare these days. Looks amazing!
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    CA HOV White sticker

    Since you don't have the stickers yet, you are not legal to drive in the carpool lane. No question. I have my carpool lane stickers in the car, my car is registered to drive in the carpool lane and legal to do so. I however have not placed them on the car. I had someone literally cut the paint...
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    90D and a 270 mile leg

    Oh, it's certainly possible. Not arguing that at all. But, to get the rated range, you have to drive very nicely. You can't just let loose and drive care free. If it's cold out, his range won't actually be 294. But even at 294, He's going to have go around 60 MPH to achieve it. If he's on a...
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    90D and a 270 mile leg

    Well, from reading the posts, apparently "range anxiety" is still a thing of the present. It was supposed to be no more once cars were able to go 200 miles on a charge. Clearly not the case in all situations. Making it still difficult to have a Tesla as your ONLY vehicle if you travel a lot...
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    Near 40% loss in value on 2016 P90D--

    It IS a P90D. Look at the photo of the gauge cluster. Apparently the guy didn't put "P" in the listing details, but it is in fact a Performance model.
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    Near 40% loss in value on 2016 P90D--

    This isn't even my own complaint. 2016 Tesla Model S 4-Door | eBay 2016 P90D fully loaded on e-bay (not my car) just had to lower his price to $98,500 due to lack of response for what was a $138,000 just 6 months ago. Only has 6,000 miles on it. Pretty sad. I know, cars are not investments...
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    Model X Wheels on Model S ???

    Anyone know if they will physically fit?. I understand the tires won't, but those can easily being changed. Currently have 21" wheels, however in lovely Los Angeles where half the roads are horrible, it's an issue hitting unexpected pot holes. Unfortunately my work takes me on unfamiliar paths...
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    Finally the right time to buy a Model S!

    There have been many pissed off owners who recently purchased their cars, only to find it is outdated just a few days, weeks, months later with the release of the P100D, then followed a few weeks later with another major release of Autopilot 2.0. That's been Tesla's pattern since the Model S...
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    Retrofit Autopilot 2.0 Hardware Possibility?

    Sadly, as with most major updates, there's little chance of retrofitting an older car at any cost that is remotely reasonable. Tesla struggles to keep up with service as it is. They sure as heck don't have the time to add a bunch of retrofits to their workload. As Musk said, it would be cheaper...
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    My outdated 2016 Model S

    I have multiple 7-8 year old computers that are still going strong and still do everything I need them to do in lighting quick speed. There are no hardware changes I could make to my computer that would make it do something that it can't already to right now. My Ipad is 4 versions old. Same...
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    WOW, $2,602 lease payment for new P100D!!!!

    And your point is? Lease or buy, what's the difference. Payments are higher on a lease than a buy. The only differences are, you are limited on how many miles you can go, but get a guaranteed buyback price effectively, meaning payments after 3 years equal what you owe on it and can walk away...
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    My outdated 2016 Model S

    Tesla made 2014 a difficult year for buyers to seek out a used car with the release of AP hardware around October, 2014 (I believe). When shopping for a used 2014, it's something a potential buyer has to be careful of. Sadly, many "potential" pre-owned buyers are not well versed on Tesla's...
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    WOW, $2,602 lease payment for new P100D!!!!

    Less than a year ago, I leased my P90D Model S, pretty much loaded and the best I could get at the time for less than $1,600 a month based on a 12,000 mile per year lease. Just priced out a new fully loaded P100D and holy crap!!, $2,404 before taxes. Add in L.A. 9.0% sales tax and its up to...
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    My outdated 2016 Model S

    I figured most would take my post as whining. It really wasn't that. I just wish there was a way to have existing owners who just spent $70, $80, $100+ grand on their cars feel like they can stay current at least for a little while. Again, I love Tesla and they are second to none. It's just a...
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    My outdated 2016 Model S

    The great thing about Tesla, they are constantly innovating new features into their cars on a daily basis. The bad thing about Tesla, they are constantly innovating new features into their cars on a daily basis!! At the end of last year, I ordered my brand new, top of the line car. Went for the...
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    Rear facing seats increased price, now $4000

    Depends on which model you get. When I purchased my car, it was the top of the line car available just after the release of the 90 kWh battery. I got the P90D loaded except for sub-zero. It was $123,000 In October, 2015 when ordered. Today, to get a top of the line Performance model, I know have...
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    Rear facing seats increased price, now $4000

    Yep, because they can! Kind of sad. I know they're selling as many as they can build right now, but it does suck as they're absolutely pricing many potential customers out of a Tesla. With just the price increases over the past year, I would have been priced out of the car I currently own, which...
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    Tesla drops solid white as a color choice - speculation as to why?

    Why did the price for the sound system instantly jump from $900 to $2,500? Wheels from $3,500 to $4,500? Etc, etc, etc. Mo money, mo money, mo money, and......because they can. While most car manufacturers set pricing down to the last dollar based on a specified profit margin of x percent, Tesla...
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    If 8.0 ships tomorrow everyone's next Tesla payment is on me!

    Where's my money??? 8.0 shipped on Wednesday. Still no response to take care of my payment. He even put it in writing for all to see.
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    Wow, big price difference

    OK, I found how to price a regular P90D. My $120,000 equally equipped today is $126,000. So $6,000 more. That was $20,000 over a regular 90D. I struggled with spending $20,000 for a "feel good pedal" that I use maybe once a month!! LOL, but happy that I did. As I said in my original post, I...
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    Wow, big price difference

    My point was not that the P100D is too expensive at all. It was that it appeared they removed all other Performance versions of the car where before you could get insane performance for $120,000, you now had to spend $26,000 more to get a "Performance" version of the car. Apparently, accordingly...
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    Wow, big price difference

    Hadn't looked at pricing in a while. I got my P90D Insane at the end of last year for $120,000. Now, you can no longer get a 90 battery with the Performance Model and can no longer get a Performance Model without Ludicrous. I love my P90D with Insane mode. Far more acceleration than I need and...
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    4 BENT WHEELS!

    Unfortunately, to have a leg to stand on, probably would have had to report it on the day you picked up the car or at least within a day or two. Clearly they didn't check the wheels in their CPO process. 19 inch wheels are the base model wheels. A lot of people change them out for 21's or custom...
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    Very sad... Fatality in a Model S on the 405

    it was a seriously hard hit, clearly at a very high rate of speed. i don't know if the kids were in the far rear seats or just the back seats. if they were in the back seats, then they had a better chance. Clearly if that's the case, there's no doubt the result would have been the same for the 7...
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    Trade in value and surprise accident damage?

    $27K isn't all that unreasonable. Tesla offers a 50% guarantee buyback after three years for the base price and I believe 40% for options. At $92K original, probably a $60 base, means $30 for the base price plus 40% of the remaining $32K = another $12,800 for a total of $42,800 if you had only...
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    Very sad... Fatality in a Model S on the 405

    If proven to have been drunk, the driver will absolutely be charged with a minimum of vehicular manslaughter and more likely 2nd degree murder.
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    Very sad... Fatality in a Model S on the 405

    Horrible. But the exact reason I said I would never put my kids in the trunk of my car. Have always been surprised that those rear seats were even approved being that they are in the crush zone of the vehicle. Not blaming Tesla at all. It's just physics. Not enough room from the passenger to the...
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    Two Oh Sh*t Auto-Pilot moments

    Am usually pretty comfortable with Auto Pilot's capabilities and weaknesses. I always pay attention and thank got that was true today. Had two Oh *sugar* moments just a couple of minutes apart. On my same daily path, on the freeway, no traffic at this point in time, was in the carpool lane...
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    My S60 was stolen last night. I recovered it this morning thanks to the app

    I just LOVE that we have so many "English teachers" on the internet forums to correct our grammar and spelling errors. It's just oh so helpful as there's just no way i would ever have understood that the OP made a typo and completely not understood the meaning of his post! Thank you SO MUCH!
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    How will Tesla get from $66k to $35k?

    Maybe a little late to this thread, but here goes anyway... $66K for a Model S60 still includes a 75 KWH battery that flat out costs Tesla more money. That won't be the case with the Model 3 I would also venture to guess that the profit margin on a base model $35,000 Model 3 with no options will...
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    New Nose Option for Older Model S

    Is anyone considering this aftermarket retrofit of the front nose from Unplugged Performance? Looks similar to the factory 2016 nose, but they added a little bit of "sport" to it. At $2,500, seems pretty reasonable? Unplugged Performance | Unplugged Performance Refresh Front Fascia System
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    How's this for an insurance quote?

    I'm sure its the latter. A lot of insurance companies don't like the Tesla. They're paranoid of the cost to repair it. Maybe rightfully so being that it seems like even when a car is in a moderate accident, they are totaled out. Parts from Tesla are not cheap. I had my insurance in Los Angeles...
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    How's this for an insurance quote?

    Searched online for an insurance quote for my Model S P90D. Infinity Insurance came up with the following quote...... Pay up front $2369 per mo. $28430 total for 12 mos. Pay as you go $2330 per mo. Plus $2863 Down Payment...
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    And here I thought I was going too fast!!

    And it is MILES per hour, not Kilometers per hour!!
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    And here I thought I was going too fast!!

    Nope, L.A., California!
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    And here I thought I was going too fast!!

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    Grill Me!

    While the Model S is a low volume car "relatively", there are just a few companies that have invested into making body kits and modified pieces, knowing that only a very, very small percentage of the 100,000 or so Model S owners will be willing to change anything. As such, the development costs...
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    Revised Front End / Nose Model 3

    I'll take 210 miles of range instead of 215 for a much better looking car. The only thing that brought me to buy a Tesla Model S in the first place was that I hated how all other electric cars screamed "look at me, I'm different". The Model S broke that mold. Sadly, Musk is starting to put some...
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    Revised Front End / Nose Model 3

    There's a site with people's renderings of a revised front nose for the Model 3, apparently at Musk's request. The Model 3, if you cover up the nose, is an AMAZING looking vehicle, just beautiful. Kudo's to Musk for following design themes of top auto makers (BMW 3 series to 5 series, Mercedes C...
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    Did the Model S hype live up to expectations?

    My opinion has to be....No, by a longshot. 1. The nose is controversial and seems to be a love/hate thing. People are going to buy the Tesla because it's a Tesla, not because it has a nose cone or does not. Just as many hated the nose cone. Kind of a non-issue. 2. The LED lights I guess are...
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    Tesla's $200,000,000 Day!!

    Guess I hit the nail on the head. So many said I was delusional to think there would be 200,000 pre-orders on this car. As the OP, can I now ask the moderator to remove the "speculation" part that he/she added after I submitted my post? No longer speculation. We're at over 200,000 now and...
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    Elon tweets - count @ 198k & rethinking prod - east coast doomed?

    I think east coaster's are getting worried about nothing. Best I can tell, employees get first dibs. Current owners get next priority. Of the current owners, those on the west coast get first crack at it since they're closest. After that, I think it just turns into orders based on your place in...
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    Tesla's $200,000,000 Day!!

    115,000 orders already per Elon!! And that was before the car was unveiled. $115,000,000 and counting!!!!
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    Tesla's $200,000,000 Day!!

    You do realize they allow everyone to reserve two if they want to right? How many stores are there? I know at least 30 in the US alone. Probably 1,000 people per store minimum. Will hit 38,000 in stores alone today probably. Tons of people waiting on line. They opened it up early to avoid a...
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    Tesla's $200,000,000 Day!!

    Do we know any other company that can take in $200,000,000 in a day? Assuming 200,000 pre-orders today at $1,000 each. 200,000 is not unreasonable considering the lines shown at all the stores around the WORLD today, plus how many are waiting to reserve on line.
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    Extended Service Agreements No Longer Transferable?

    Did nobody continue reading this agreement? Paragraph I states: Transfer of agreement. $100 to transfer to new owner. - - - Updated - - - Did nobody continue reading this agreement? Paragraph I states: Transfer of agreement. $100 to transfer to new owner.
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    Speculation - Carbon Fiber Spoiler now offered because new Model S design is close

    I much prefer the T-sportline spoiler. Don't like that the Tesla spoiler falls short on both sides as far as the width of the trunk. Also, from the rear, it just sits on top of the decklid. The T-Sportline spoiler stretches the entire width of the trunk and contours over the trunk edge and Tesla...
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    Are we worried yet about Tesla Stock?

    Ouch, another 10% today. $147 now. $280 less than a year ago. Almost 50%. Disappointed I didn't get out at $280 or $260 or $240 or $220 or $200, but happy I bailed at $180. Will get back in at some point. The stock market is going down in general, but Tesla is a risky stock and those get hit...
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    85 kWh battery removed from design studio

    Don't mind that they upgrade their cars at all. The difference this time though, is it costs significantly more than before. When they went from 60 to 70, the price stayed the same. Now, to get anything above 70 kwh, will cost you $8,000 more overnight. I have my car, but can see a lot of people...
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    P90D (Insane) is quicker than P85D - Review

    If there's no benefit, efficiency or otherwise, to Sport mode, why does Tesla offer it as a selection?