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Anyone else notice the speed limit is wrong for much of the sea to sky highway? This must be one of the most popular supercharger routes. specifically it thinks much of the drive past lions bay is still 60km. This makes a large percentage of autopilot unusable. Is this something one should...

Q2 lever confirmed.

FSD is back to 5k. I guess anyone who paid 4K for after delivery (like myself) isn’t going to receive any refund given the 2k was a temporary cash injection option. Still sad the price for preordering a product can fluctuate by >50% from one week to the next.

Yeah, at the time I took this as him misspeaking. But now I’m tending to agree it was intentional. He did have a coy smile when he said it. So does he mean if you buy now you have hw3? Does he mean recent purchases in 2019? Does he mean they will try to go for lvl 3 with current hardware and not...

Put another way. This has nothing to do with the % of the total cost of the car or how much a car has devalued. I went on their website 1 year after delivery. Bought something from them. A preorder addon that presumably enables software and any hardware upgrades needed for FSD for thousands of...

How is it that some people on this thread can not wrap their head around the sole point and argument of the OP that FSD purchasers have received nothing. No software or hardware. It was a preorder. That same preorder has now dropped in price. Nothing has been delivered. No one has enjoyed...

We all ready for the double whammy on wed with supercharger v3 announcement? At least in this case, it’s expected that older cars won’t be future proof. My guess is all cars will be able to handle more kWh but to what degree will vary. For example, I bet the the 75Ds will be negligible...

Hmm, seems like they are trying to do right without the company absolutely tanking: Elon Musk on Twitter

During recent earnings report Elon claimed buying FSD now secures FSD and HW3 at “a discount”. Elon said 2 years ago we were max 6 months away from first FSD features. I want Tesla to survive and understand they have to do things that will alienate their base if current climate demands. Still...

Found one.

Ahh, I did not know this. My apologies. Yes, likely Elon did not acknowledge current state of their HW2 stack (entrepreneur sales move) upon unveil nor had a concrete roadmap. Probably thought “self driving” is almost a solved problem by humanity and Tesla could catch up to the likes of Waymo...

:) Bladerskb perhaps life’s too short to spend so much time being frustrated and disappointed in something you purchased. Time to cut your losses and trade in for a car you would be happier with?

Sorry, I missed something. How does that refer to my post?

Tesla Autopilot is not yet approved for Model 3 in Europe – but don’t panic So at this point they are officially saying it is the car (model 3) that hasn’t passed regulatory approval for autopilot. Not new autopilot hardware. Unless Tesla are trying to go full blown stealth mode, it sounds...

Worth noting: Poll - why dropping the 75 S/X?

Tesla aren’t that different to other companies in terms of promotions. Classic for “buy before it’s too late” and then 1 week after “here’s a new deal that is arguably more interesting” so they don’t kill sales going forward. In other words, I’m predicting a new “mid range” option (80kw) and...

Particularly since this is coming from people at the sales level, this smells like “anti-selling” FSD until they get HW3 available. It’s just more retrofits to add to the list at a discount for every FSD software update they sell. Tesla have a HW3 roadmap and FSD depends on it. This wasn’t...

4 months in, still don’t have an appointment to get camera replaced. I’m assuming they were waiting for more diagnostics and hoping a firmware version would fix it in between my enquires. At any rate, I guess I’ll try escalating again as my service rep has gone MIA.

We lost one fob for our X so I’d love for this to roll out soon and work even remotely similar to model 3. $300 CAD for a new fob isn’t very appealing.

Thanks. I pushed back again showing the email trail dating back to June. They agreed to honour it based on the fact I’ve been trying for months :) Dozens of calls and emails later, perhaps I should question the value of my time vs the $1000 in savings. Stubbornness and fighting for fairness for...

I have been asking my service center since June (June!) for response on this. After many escalations here is the response from HQ: “On 6/26/2018, the post-delivery price of Full Self-Driving (FSD) increased from $4,000 to $5,000. Tesla is no longer offering refunds for owners who had ordered...

I’ve been waiting a month. They said they ordered a camera and will get back to me but are hoping a firmware fix comes in st some point. The constant dash alert and removal of lane change altogether is kinda frustrating :)

For sure. I can see rangers too. Regardless, there will be an influx of service requests and presumably bottlenecks. In 6 months there will be how many HW2 cars on the road? Upwards of 400k? How many of those will have bought FSD once HW3 is available?

One thought I had relevant to this thread is how Tesla will handle the influx of service requests for HW3. While it will be less than an hour service, survey that will hammer service centres. Perhaps Tesla will send out invites in waves, starting with people who have had FSD the longest. This...

Thanks. I’ll give the national line a call. Would be good to have it in writing but will take any agreement I can :)

This is the response I’m getting from my local service center after showing 4 different cases of people saying their $4k price was honoured: “Sorry I have no answers. We would need to figure who the OA is and speak to them. OA = Owner Advisor = Sales person. I suspect It only applies to those...

Hm. This is frustrsting. I’m continually being told that it is impossible to get the original $4k price for my X that I bought in 2017. This is with my local service center. Does anyone have recommendations of what I should do? Some other number I should call?

In earnings call, I believe that Elon said "buying FSD now off menu ultimately gives you a discount on future capability". As in, I think he was being pretty explicit that the price *will* go up once HW3 or FSD features roll out.

I’ve complelty lost what you both are arguing about :)

Hm. So with FSD off the ordering menu, I’m thinking I should bite while it’s avaialble for only one week. However it’s frustrating that my local service center is saying the original 4K price to upgrade isn’t being honoured to anyone. Anyone successfully able to do this recently? How did you...

My local service center said this isn’t a thing. Who did you call to get the original 4K price? I got my X in 2017. Frustrating that some are getting this original price and others are not.

Has anyone recently been able to get the original $4K after delivery price? I received delivery in 2017 and was told by my service center that they are not honouring any deliveries from before the $5k price hike.

Any update here? Mid oct now. Wondering if I should replace my yellow bordered mcu1 screen now and stop waiting for hope. I know the mcu often doesn’t get replaced but I imagine once they start offering retrofits, they may start carrying less mcu1 parts and you’ll get the new one by luck...

So while I know this has probably been mentioned many times, is there a summary of the AP steering and performance improvements? I don’t mean new features like drive by nav or lane change. The actual handling of complex curves, hills, and traffic? Hoping the additional cameras and improved AI...

I PM’d you in case my message gets removed. Not sure I can hand out my referral code even if asked.

Congrats by the way!

Hi Mark, That’s correct. You can use any referral code from anyone. So if you have a friend or contact that you’d like to use, you can do that and they will also receive a referral reward. Works two ways. If you don’t have one, and you’d like to use mine, you can follow this link to order the...

While I’m all for a push towards minimalism, I really thought for the S/X refresh they would go for a less premium roadster rather than a more premium 3 design.

The thesis changes. Given enough runway, Tesla will likely become a giant and generate massive amounts of revenue to justify their share value. They're trying to stop that momentum right now, not speculate on the future. Once Tesla start reporting a profit and are in mass production, the...

You got me excited thinking this was an announcement or new details.

Has anyone been able to get FSD after delivery for price before this recent increase?

Given this is an early access release, is it a reasonable guess that this is what Elon is referring to as the “new Autopilot update coming this week?”. If so, it’s basically the same as 20 but with more instrument cluster visuals (cars in opposite lanes)?

I may have missed the sarcasm but 2018.20 is the only release version after 2018.18. (2018.21 is exclusive to early access based users). So if it makes you feel any better, 2018.18 has only been out for a few weeks and ~80% of the fleet are on it or before it. Being on 2018.12 or less seems...

Yep. I’m on 2018.12. So is roughly 5% of the fleet: TeslaFi.com Firmware Tracker I’m on wifi daily too. The paranoia in me notices I got uncorked and manually updated to 2018.12 at service shop. Wondering if that messed up when and how my car checks for an update.

Any perceived autopilot changes from those that have 2018.20 and came from 2018.18?

Probably not the place but judging by the unhappy comments about unhelpful posts and unhelpful posts themselves (possibly including this one), it would be neat if there was a designated category for “Software Updates”. Where the thread structure was more restrictive. So at the top of the...

Wahoo! Vancouver store too (just got email).

For whatever it’s worth, and since speculation is fun, I think we will either see a fork in the codebase or a purchasable hardware retrofit. My logic for this outlined here in similar recent thread: Model S/X Computer

I’m hoping that, like the LTE upgrade, this is offered as a future paid option. I think part of the reason they offered the cellular hardware upgrade is because it made their lives easier. It allowed cars to upload more data back to the mothership and offer updates to cars without wifi. A...

@BigD0g thats not fair. EAP/FSD has been feature complete for a long time. It’s just blocked on quality testing and regulatory approval. ... :)