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I'm sure I'm the only one who noticed/cared that Tesla has historically (they are slightly more forthcoming now) done everything they can to hide the cash price from the buyer. They say "after rebates and savings" . This is more dirty business, and I don't know who it was who said that the...

Yes. I do. Doctors, stores, family. Several times a month. A free tank =/= free fuel for life. Also, while we're at it oshit it's raining gotta bring in the crated chair. dammit

No lifetime free gas or diesel are ever offered for ICE vehicles either, also they "give" as bonuses 1000kW or something packs, or did I make this up? I live 200 miles from the city. I would have to use a supercharger a lot. BTW this particular supercharger, in all the times I have driven...

It's not the sticker price, although I was so stupid as to believe the $35k Model 3 promise, expecting fully loaded to be $50k ish not $72k. And I have looked into (non C) POs with amazement at the randomness of the pricing. It is the fact that the cars are completely, wholly unreliable. And...

If you're happy with it, that's what matters. You obviously have more money/time/patience than I. Enjoy! I am sad that I am unable to justify the purchase of a vehicle I have lusted after for over 10 years.

I let all the cheerleaders convince me to invest a huge chunk of my liquid assets in a Tesla, stuff like this Seriously, folks? This is ok? How much extra money/time/patience do you have? And I'm an asshole for expecting a high-end car to come to me fully assembled, ready to drive. Just...

truly sorry to hear that.

Dood. Go on the news, Help Me Howard! This is rick-diculous.

Wow if that isn't some of the thinnest skin I've seen outside the old folks' home. ROFL

There are several companies who make shades, and Tesla offers them as well

As mentioned by others, the laws are intentionally vague so as to insulate those with power, money, and influence, to indeed break, nay flout it. I agree that it's dirty business, but in the end you can't fight City Hall. I fought the law, and the law won. I think I heard that somewhere

Long story short. Noone. There is no one who wants to hear anything but glowing praise. Thank you and have a nice day. /snark Really, you're about to get jumped on because you jUst DoN'T geT iTT! You are privileged to have had the opportunity to experience the marvel, truly PARADIGM...

I bet there is a clause hidden in the paperwork they shove in your face and try to make you sign in 3 minutes after you have paid for the car and before you take possession.

Or, stop payment. I have had funds withdrawn from my account when the payor stopped payment after the check was deposited and cleared. So it is possible.

Sounds like Tesla is the automotive Federal Reserve. They may be wonderful cars to drive, but I just can't take the chance that I will be one of the magical "small percentage" that get totally screwed with no lube. Dirty dirty business

Just stirring the pot a lil, but has any of you gotten concerned this company that sells cutting-edge technological marvels masquerading as cars can't even handle its website?!??

I don't think there is a product of theirs I dislike. That being said, I am partial to Griot's as they were the company who introduced clay to me. It was so amazing I just became an immediate fangirl. And I really want to try the new BOSS system, but only currently have a small cordless...

Not this brand, but I've been interested to note there are few, if any, who seem to use Griot's products. Any reason?

Florida isn't the punchline in so many jokes for nothing. By Florida standards, that dealer is on the more honest end of the spectrum. >:( good for you!

Talk to a lawyer and keep copies of ALL correspondence. Where have your payments been going?

That's great, still sux that it's not what you know, it's who you know. I know, fair's something you go to in August. bla bla Still glad you found a good person to know! :)

FYI, I am certain there are many more, like me, who have received nothing but abhorrent treatment at every turn by dozens of Tesla employees and, therefore, are not Tesla owners but would have been if not for the cluster* this company is. And in no way is a Model 3 either Large or Luxo. j/s...

That's why God made a search button.

They really don't waste any opportunity to show people how little their business means. So sad. I went on the site, all it says is Free Supercharging but an article said until resale. More intentional obfuscation.

just spitballing, but maybe because it's a tesla forum. i'm not a tech savant, but keyword optimization is a thing.

free supercharging for what period?

I am glad you have had and continue to have other, positive, experiences with the brand and its universe. Sadly, I have not. Apathy and/or condescension at every turn. Good news is, I have always been a German car gal at heart. Fingers crossed on the Taycan.

Yes, that is definitely a contributing factor. There are a few folks here who work like a pack of hyenas, making the whole situation considerably more off putting than necessary, too.

My experience is most folks are rude in the for sale section, well most of the site really. I stopped even looking for a Tesla, because of attitude. 10 years I waited. For this. It is just so incredibly disheartening. GLWS...

No tiles yet? She says sadly

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Hey, I heard Elon had some really nice oceanfront 5000 square foot houses with all the amenities for sale next year. Just send your $400k deposit now and we will get back to you on pricing and availability.

Ooooooh, that was the situation with my Jetta's rearview mirror. Huh. I always wondered what was up with that oil leaking out, I mean I know it stopped functioning as an automatic dimmer, but the oil was between the front glass & reflective surface. hmmmmm. Sorry, back to topic. What was it...

I say take back all the Model 3s ala EV1 to weed out the poor folk *gasp* demanding value for their money and "diluting the brand", deliver the new Roadster starting at $500k, stick to what has been working so far - just say, "we're new, we're still working out the kinks" as an excuse for poor...

To me, not the OP, but to me dual pane windows are 2 windows with an air gap in between, usually filled with inert gas.

General appearance should ofc include paint drips and misaligned panels too. Caveat emptor and all that

I was a potential used Tesla customer after they did the move which I consider to be a bit of a bait-and-switch with the Model 3. I for one am now just going to wait to see what Porsche delivers and at what price. I'm over the Tesla drama. So yeah, I was looking at a P85 with Autopilot for...

common sense + google machine

Supply and Demand is no longer a Law of economics, as there are no truly free markets. And even pretending for one second that Tesla has relation to either is ludicrous.

I actually brought this up to the sales people who have called me, they insist the supercharging network was never intended to be a profit center. And the M3 was supposed to be $35k before tax rebates. rofl I seem to recall the Superchargers were going to be built to be self sustaining, making...

So I'm no good at photoshop. You get the idea. The cheaper Tesla! Coming Soon!!!

I hate "OBO". Nobody means OBO. /rant

Want to Buy There is a want to buy area.

booooooooo hissssssss I was counting on you as a backup yay for you anyway :D

No, same one.

Buying a Tesla isn't the same as buying a BMW. You don't go to a car lot and either custom order from a standardized list of options, or drive off WITH THE CAR, you actually test drive the car you are purchasing (much of the time). Tesla takes your reservation money, tells you virtually...

I reiterate, lower cost of manufacture does not correlate with a lower cost to owner. From my point of view neither he nor the company has shown any interest in expanding into middle-class America.

You all are assuming that lower cost to manufacture = lower cost to buyer. Ain't necessarily so.

I expected Progressive to have a high rate, but it was eminently reasonable on this P. Didn't quote any others though. The Autopilot is considered a safety feature, I believe, maybe cancelling out the P? Who knows? It's all whim I swear

LOL Yet another reason no Tesla for me. Thanks for the info. We have regular deep puddles that can't be avoided, I was already skeptical because the puddles are certainly brackish water, and my solution would have been a thorough rinse down, which would probably be even worse.