I have no reason to believe it is less robust than a 14-50 outlet, and Tesla built it contemplating that users might need to change out adapters to plug into different outlets while traveling. So, I would expect it to be more robust.
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I have no reason to believe it is less robust than a 14-50 outlet, and Tesla built it contemplating that users might need to change out adapters to plug into different outlets while traveling. So, I would expect it to be more robust.
GPinzone
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My NEMA 14-50 outlet was a pain to use because it was difficult to plug and unplug. I sprayed DeoxIT DN5 into the outlet and it's been smooth as silk ever since.
My point is that it is unreasonable to leave the adapter dangle unplugging the UMC from it. Now you have the adapter end which has not designed to be left hanging live hanging there live. What has improved vs. unplugging from the plug? That is designed for periodic R&R too.
hmgolds
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I'm leery of too many in/out cycles between the adapter and the UMC so I never unplug the adapter from the UMC unless I have to switch.
But since I don't need the UMC in the car 95% of the time, I just use a 14-50 outlet and leave my UMC plugged in. I have never needed the faster charging (at home) that the Tesla Wall Connector would offer. That's not to say someone else would not. If, for some reason, I had to leave town in a hurry there's a supercharger within 30 miles in any direction.
I just don't see it worth the $500 for the wall connector. If I had to plug/unplug my UMC every day, I'd change my tune.
But since I don't need the UMC in the car 95% of the time, I just use a 14-50 outlet and leave my UMC plugged in. I have never needed the faster charging (at home) that the Tesla Wall Connector would offer. That's not to say someone else would not. If, for some reason, I had to leave town in a hurry there's a supercharger within 30 miles in any direction.
I just don't see it worth the $500 for the wall connector. If I had to plug/unplug my UMC every day, I'd change my tune.
JamstationP85D
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The Tesla wall connector can charge up to 80amps (with proper wiring and switch settings) so you have to balance your needs for %98 of your time with what your car can actually accept (does your car charger accept over 40amps?). I park outside and inside the garage so I opted for the wall connector mounted on a pole thats close enough to charge the car if its driven front end towards the house (its 24 foot cable can reach without inducing math level parking angles/positioning). Plus.. it looks sexy af (black wall connector mounted on black pedestal). If money isnt a top decision point then do it. If you are being economical then stick with what you have.
Just bought my model 3, 2 weeks ago. I purchased the corded mobile connector but found out later that the mobile connector that came with the car can convert to the 14-50 connector. All I had to do was purchase the 14-50 adapter which costs $35.00 on the Tesla site.
Now there's a problem with that as the 14-50 adapter is out of stock and has been for some time. I have a sneaking suspicion that third parties are purchasing them and reselling them on various sites for $50.00 or more.
I'm not recommending you not purchase the Mobile connector for $520.00 but if you want to save some money, I'd go for the adapter.
Right now, I commute less than 30 miles, the 120 outlet that came with the Gen 2 mobile connector works fine for me as I can pretty much get a full charge by morning (approx. 5 miles per hour). The 14-50 adapter will fully charge a low battery in 7 hours.
Anyone else having problems with purchasing the 14-50 adapter on the Tesla site?
My motorhome, my Leaf? Back feed generator? Other high current electric equipment.
Even a HPWC will plug into it.
Black306
Active Member
With all the Model 3s being sold recently, I'm not surprised things are regularly sold out. My recommendation is to sign up for the email notification when it's back in stock and buy it as soon as you receive the email. When I wanted to buy a black Wall Connector, I saw it became available one evening and waited until the next morning to place the order; it was sold out by early morning. After that, I signed up for a Wall Connector and a 14-50 adapter. I was able to order both right when I received the email.
pl8dlikafiddle
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@captn_bob what I found was my local service center had a ton of these in stock when the website said the adapters were out of stock. The same applied to the HWPC when both colors were out of stock on the website for a brief time - my local service center had a stack of 20 of them.
Check with your local service center, and you might be able to snag one without waiting.
Check with your local service center, and you might be able to snag one without waiting.
DavidElg
Member
I say get a 14-50, and then if you decide you'd like to keep the UMC cable in the car and would like a bump from 32A to 40A, get a wall connector that can plug into the 14-50 so you don't need to call back an electrician.
I have lifetime supercharging with my Model 3, and I couldn't agree more. I installed a Tesla Wall connector as getting home and charging is much more valuable than stopping off at the nearby supercharger to get that last bit of free electricity. It's just not worth it, though I still take advantage of the free electricity between point A and B.
I traded my free Supercharging for $5,000. So it is worth less than that to me. Charging at home is cheaper and that's what I mostly do.
jrweiss98020
Tessa's Tesla
I don't think the $500 for the wall charger is worth the extra 8 amps in your situation. I normally drive 50-75 mi/day, and the 14-50 outlet at 32 amps is plenty fast. A "normal" recharge from 20-80% will take ~6 hours. Even if you run the battery completely down, it would take ~10 hours to fully recharge to 100%.
I don't carry my charging cord when driving locally, so I don't unplug it from the wall very often.
I don't carry my charging cord when driving locally, so I don't unplug it from the wall very often.
PianoAl
Active Member
Note that I ordered my 14-30 adapter 7 days ago, and it still hasn't shipped. Nothing said it was out of stock.
Eno Deb
Active Member
I don't see what the problem is? I you look at the UMC adapter receptacle, you'll see that it uses pin contacts similar to the Tesla charging or J1772 connectors. The latter are rated for at least 10,000 mating cycles, so most likely the adapter connection is rated for frequent cycles too. The same cannot be said of consumer-grade 14-50 receptacles, so unless you need the adapter elsewhere I don't think it's a bad idea to separate the UMC from the adapter rather than unplugging the whole thing from the wall outlet.
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