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15 Model Y now available at local location
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The $37800 model Y is the stand range Model Y. Long Rang Model Y is about $45K in China now. US tesla is the most expensive tesla in the world. I guess we have to pay the “Made in US price”.
They then are all incompetent - including Lord Elon who was apparently blindsided by this too.
Tesla fights for EV credits after key model left off SUV list
The most popular EV in the U.S., the five-seat version of the Model Y crossover, was left off an early list of vehicles eligible for the new federal tax credit. CEO Elon Musk is asking Tesla fans to write the IRS.
www.autonews.com
I'm not sure that I'd call it historically consistent just by going back about 1 month. Its a departure from what we've seen for the last couple of years. Delivery time estimates are the shortest that they've been in a long time too.
Yet they have EDD of Jan - March. Something doesn't add up there. They literally have cars ready to be purchased, no way they have 2 month backlog.
inventory cars and EDD cars do not reference the same database.
inventory cars can be used (trade-in) or new (built to spec).
the used cars are trade-in vehicles, off lease or whatever.
the new inventory cars were built in Tesla's attempt to offset the EoY chaos of tax-incentive focused people trying to delay deliveries into 2023.
just like 2022.....it's just this year Tesla tried to adapt to what they knew would happen. the unsold spec-builds are what you see. there aren't that many.
remember, Fremont makes 5000 cars per week, Austin 2-3000 per week.
exxxviii
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I didn't. I actually looked back over many months. But the problem is that Tesla has been bringing plants online and ramping them up, so there truly is no "historical" to judge by, like you would have with more steady-state businesses. My historical was relative to the last few months. But it is up to nearly 700 cars today, which is potentially an all-time high.
That's fair. TBH, its hard to say what is normal and not as the last couple of years have been anything but normal in general. At one time, the Model 3 was also really common to see in inventory and the S & X were both really easy to get quickly.
This might be closer to normal overall.
Tesla can only sell the AWD, LR, or Performance Y in 2023. They can sell any with 7 seats to get to the 80k limit. With 5 seats all have a 55k tax credit limit.
To sell a LR RWD or other MY Tesla would need to submit it for EPA testing, etc, which they haven't done for 2023's.
Do we know Tesla has or has not, or for that matter, what exactly, they've submitted to EPA ?
Are we privy to any of that prior to EPA providing public guidance ?
Model years are arbitrary. MINI Coopers will be 2024 starting in this March/April/May. Cadillac will be building 2024 Lyriqs in a few months for delivery ASAP.
Mrbrock
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Yes, there is a public document search. Basic Search | Document Index System | US EPA Search for certificates of conformity or applications for more information.
The point was not necessarily relating to the exact model year but that they haven't certified any other models for their current model year. When they switch to 2024, they still have to have a Certificate of Conformity for those vehicles before they can sell them.
Relating to the original post, there are 2 Model Y AWD (279 mile 4680 produced in Austin) available in Sunnyvale, CA on El Camino Real so they are shipping those cars all over the country now.
still, 8000 cars is just one week of production of the MY variants. 2% of annual production rate.
It's a little early to get knickers in a twist over it.
But the Short Sellers are blowing their horns.
Tesla doesn't advertise, so they're a punching bag for the Media.
When traditional auto manufacturers find they have excess inventory of some models they have been known to offer a volume purchase agreement discount with one or more rental car companies to quickly sell off the excess vehicles. I can see Tesla accelerating delivery of Model 3 and Model Y vehicles to Hertz.
Mrbrock
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Hertz supposedly had an order in for a large quantity (100,000k M3) at a lower price than current MSRP (if the order hasn''t been fulfilled yet) so that is essentially a discount.
We don't know the terms of the contract. Until recently Tesla was supply constrained on the most popular configuration of the Tesla Model Y. Tesla may have negotiated with Hertz to deliver a minimum number of units per month or quarter with an option to accelerate delivery if both parties agree. A second discount on top of the first discount could be offered.
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