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It's all of that plus the slightly lower drag coefficient with the new nose. I also thought that there's something about the design of the motors of the P models that makes it less efficient - you can even see it on the configuration page of Tesla between the P and non-P models.
About the only draw back I'm seeing is that the ride quality of the 100D isn't as quite as supple as with the 90D (2017 vs 2016 respectively).
I don't mind it. I tend to prefer the better handling of a stiffer suspension (within reason). It's also not that different from the P85
Red hardtop, so that's not the one.
I've since heard that Tesla sells Roadsters to a broker rather than reselling them. Would be cool if 919 pops up somewhere...
Tony_YYZ
Tezler Guru
Looks like Fred from Electrek scooped up your old Signature P85 as a CPO.
It's mentioned in one of the articles about CPO Teslas on Elecktrek.
Tesla’s new batches of used cars are selling ludicrously fast
Well it matches my vehicle perfectly. Without the mileage or VIN it isn't possible to be certain. But highly likely
Tony_YYZ
Tezler Guru
Yeah he mentioned it in his article.
Inactive - 5YJSA1DP0CFS02006
2012 Model S P85
$66,500
76,117 KM
Signature Red Paint
Sunroof (Older)
No Rear Facing Seats
Carbon Fiber Décor
21" Turbine Wheels
Rear Wheel Drive
Tech package - No Autopilot
Smart Air Suspension
No Cold Weather Package
Ultra High Fidelity Sound
No Ludicrous Upgrade
Hi:
Been a while since I posted. I have a 2015 P85D and am looking now for ordering a P100D. Likely not for delivery before next summer, but never too early to start researching.
Your comparison is really helpful. I am particularly interested in the interior upgrades since mine and also the technology obviously.
Two initial questions:
1) I have the dual charger in my current car. It doesn't look like that is an option anymore. The P100D comes with 72 amps though - is that dual charger or just a single one upgraded? Obviously it will run less than the 80 amps i currently run the dual charger at. Why did they make this change?
2) I can't tell from the website the difference between seats. At one point they had cooled seats too? the headrests now move? (can see that online from the pics?).
Sorry for the simple questions (tried searching without much luck). My concern as always is to "miss" out on a huge upgrade. I got lucky with the "D" - ordering a few weeks earlier than when I ordered mine and the "D" wasn't an option.
Thanks
Brad
Been a while since I posted. I have a 2015 P85D and am looking now for ordering a P100D. Likely not for delivery before next summer, but never too early to start researching.
Your comparison is really helpful. I am particularly interested in the interior upgrades since mine and also the technology obviously.
Two initial questions:
1) I have the dual charger in my current car. It doesn't look like that is an option anymore. The P100D comes with 72 amps though - is that dual charger or just a single one upgraded? Obviously it will run less than the 80 amps i currently run the dual charger at. Why did they make this change?
2) I can't tell from the website the difference between seats. At one point they had cooled seats too? the headrests now move? (can see that online from the pics?).
Sorry for the simple questions (tried searching without much luck). My concern as always is to "miss" out on a huge upgrade. I got lucky with the "D" - ordering a few weeks earlier than when I ordered mine and the "D" wasn't an option.
Thanks
Brad
@Albatross
1) I suspect it may be a single unit. Probably technology improvements allowed them to squeeze more power into the same sized box at a lower cost. Also the Superchargers use the identical same units (multiple units ganged together), so squeezing more power into the box probably allows them to also upgrade Supercharger capacity. The difference between 72 and 80 amps is not that important, IMHO. I charge at 40A at home unless I need to charge faster for some reason (has happened once in the last year).
2) The seats are not cooled, but are heated. The headrests not only move but are motorized. The seats are a huge improvement over my old P85.
1) I suspect it may be a single unit. Probably technology improvements allowed them to squeeze more power into the same sized box at a lower cost. Also the Superchargers use the identical same units (multiple units ganged together), so squeezing more power into the box probably allows them to also upgrade Supercharger capacity. The difference between 72 and 80 amps is not that important, IMHO. I charge at 40A at home unless I need to charge faster for some reason (has happened once in the last year).
2) The seats are not cooled, but are heated. The headrests not only move but are motorized. The seats are a huge improvement over my old P85.
FredLambert
Member
Hey Doug, Indeed it looks like Im buying your old car. Anything I should know about it? Any quirks?
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Thanks Doug. Appreciate it. I saw on a thread and online a few months back they had cooled seats as well - but then they stopped offering that as an option. I think it was due to maintenance/quality issues. Too bad as would be nice in the summer (the climate system still leaves a bit to be desired at least on mine...)
Tony_YYZ
Tezler Guru
The cooled seats never really worked that well from the vast feedback on them. They didn't push air conditioned air through them, in fact they worked by sucking in air and users reported them to be pretty worthless. Also since the seats were perforated, they were susceptible to tearing a lot easier.
It's a good car. The battery is holding up really well. The tires are brand-spanking-new - when I went to put the summers on I realized they were corded, so I replaced them.
It was the very first Model S delivered in Canada (by 15 minutes!). Of course it had the expected "early adopter" issues, and also Tesla decided to upgrade a lot of stuff along the way. That means a good chunk of the hardware is newer than the car. That includes the door handles (newer version than original), touchscreen, drive unit (also updated version), brakes, some suspension components, and a bunch of smaller items.
The only thing that had been repeatedly troublesome was the pano roof, but a year ago they finally fixed it for good - it has been working great ever since.
The main reason I traded in was to get AWD. RWD is actually pretty decent in winter but you'll want to get a set of really good winter tires - not the Pirelli stuff Tesla sells, but Nokkian Hakkas or XIce3 (I have the latter).
Would be nice to see it go to a good home!
FredLambert
Member
Thanks for that message. that's very reassuring. Tesla also said that they would "recertify" the car through the CPO program so there's that too.
Yeah I would also prefer AWD and that's what I aim to get with the Model 3. I figured I don't know exactly when that will be available in Canada so I'll drive the Model S at least until it's available and I'll see what I'm going to do at that point.
I'll take good care of it in the meantime. Don't worry.
