SunCatcher
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Someone please remind me what the cost of lifetime supercharging will be, once new buyers are required to pay for it? I haven't seen mention of this in awhile. TIA.
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Informative discussion with Jay Cole who does the monthly estimates of Tesla car sales for Inside EVs. The discussion is in the responses at the end of the article. His estimation methods are similar to ours. I sense some frustration with and distrust of Tesla.
World EV Sales Up 39% In November, Tesla Model S And Nissan LEAF Battle For 2016 Title In December
World EV Sales Up 39% In November, Tesla Model S And Nissan LEAF Battle For 2016 Title In December
Is there a way to obtain the records of "Stanphyl"? It is next to impossible that Stanphyl was up 30% considering in its alleged "quarterly report" Spiegel claims his firms primary position was being short Tesla.
1) Isn't it illegal for Spiegel to strongly imply he is a analyst?
2) At what point does Spiegel's conduct count as harassment? He is attempting to slander Elon and Tesla using false information, incorrect assumptions, and is pretending to be a credible analyst, (when in reality he is not an analyst), and is basically the sole person managing a fund that is likely a fake hedge fund?
Battery expert(s) opinion needed.
EM indicated in a tweet exchange with Fred L. that the Supercharger V 3 would be capable of a much faster charge rate than is currently available. Question: Will the this be possible for our current (old) battery packs OR will it only be available for the newer battery packs which will be supplied with GF batteries?
EM indicated in a tweet exchange with Fred L. that the Supercharger V 3 would be capable of a much faster charge rate than is currently available. Question: Will the this be possible for our current (old) battery packs OR will it only be available for the newer battery packs which will be supplied with GF batteries?
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
Happy New Year 
From the January 1917 Scientific American
In the year just closed, the U.S. has produced more automobiles, both passenger carrying and commercial vehicle types, than have ever before been made in the same period. The development of the automobile mechanism has reached that point where the majority of automobiles incorporate the same essential principles. It matters not whether the engine is one of four or twelve cylinders or the selling price of the car $500 or $5,000, the proportions of the constituent parts and the best materials for the different members are now so well known that engine or chassis failure, resulting from poor design, is practically unknown on even the cheapest cars.
From the January 1917 Scientific American
In the year just closed, the U.S. has produced more automobiles, both passenger carrying and commercial vehicle types, than have ever before been made in the same period. The development of the automobile mechanism has reached that point where the majority of automobiles incorporate the same essential principles. It matters not whether the engine is one of four or twelve cylinders or the selling price of the car $500 or $5,000, the proportions of the constituent parts and the best materials for the different members are now so well known that engine or chassis failure, resulting from poor design, is practically unknown on even the cheapest cars.
MitchJi
Trying to learn kindness, patience & forgiveness
They are still figuring out how to implement it.
The company has yet to disclose the price per kWh of the Supercharger credits that will become the new standard, but Tesla did write in a statement that “prices may fluctuate over time and vary regionally based on the cost of electricity”. It also claimed that the Supercharger Network will “never be a profit center” and the new program is instead being implemented to finance the expansion of the network.
Krugerrand
Meow
I wondered the same thing. It doesn't add up. He must have only been short about 5 shares of TSLA when he started shorting at $90. He dollar averaged up from there (according to his comments on SA) to just over $200 the last I saw him publically say so. The share price was still rising at that point to the ATH. So he can't have been short very many to start and he had to have covered at least once at a loss for him to have his current short basis.
Frankly, he's shown me enough of his personality over the last 4+ years that I don't believe much of anything coming out of his mouth or fingers.
Krugerrand
Meow
Good question. I have been considering this very issue and came to the estimate of 24,000 deliveries in Q4 as the +/_ number. This would be a little more than 1,000 below guidance and easily excused by analysts considering the introduction of autopilot2 hardware.
Krugerrand
Meow
My guess is they have non performance versions of the 100 they will announce this upcoming week and want to boost demand.Clearly they have a demand issue.
MitchJi
Trying to learn kindness, patience & forgiveness
That doesn't make sense (backwards)". They have more demand for the 100's than they can satisfy.
My guess is they do a hardware changeover in early Q2 for V3 charging. Looks like they are pretty much sold out on Q1 production. non-V3 charging cars get charging for life. Fast charging (V3 level) do not. Looks like they just want to tie up the production queue for Q1
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I looked him once up at twitter and back then he was busy trolling Michelle Obama LOL
Very interesting. Thanks for that.
Take home for me is that IEV thinks there was only one week of production plant downtime this quarter, and that AP2 cars were being produced after that point, and stockpiled..which is a much better scenario than prolonged production problems.
Well, on my list posted earlier (which I can't find the anymore) of things to watch out for before Model 3, I am 2/2 on things that Tesla is late with. I had release of supercharging cost structure and EAP with minor regressions before end of year. My prediction for 2017 : everything Elon says, will happen, it just will be later than everyone expects.
HG Wells
Martian Embassy
"60% of Americans unaware electric cars exist" over at GAS2
60% Of Americans Unaware Electric Cars Exist - Gas 2
Wow, I can't really believe that. I guess the general population is just dumber than I thought.
I better go out and give some more free rides.
60% Of Americans Unaware Electric Cars Exist - Gas 2
Wow, I can't really believe that. I guess the general population is just dumber than I thought.
I better go out and give some more free rides.
GBleck
Member
But seriously does anyone know definitively if software features actually have to be implemented before revenue for the sale can be realized in GAAP?
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