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2018.8.2 Mid Range Confirmed 5.2 Second 0-60 but that's not the whole story
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Knightshade
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Errr....
https://jalopnik.com/the-volkswagen-golf-r-is-worth-it-1792987328
Did they slow the 2019 down or something?
(wouldn't surprise me, Lexus screwed up the IS350 the same way)
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Minimal, you can compare the 0-30 numbers in the screenshots on post 1. Still feels sandbagged off the line (Like most non P models).
AlanSubie4Life
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Based on the splits it looks like the 0-60 improvement was accomplished with a faster launch to peak torque (so should feel a little faster off the line), and of course torque maintained to around 45mph rather than 35mph (roughly). That would be more like a 28% peak HP increase. The real number is probably a bit lower, but it is definitely far more than 5%. Just eyeballing the curves and splits it looks like at least 10% HP improvement .
In addition peak torque looks unchanged.
The attached splits show there is some noise in the data (probably need to average a few runs to get good splits -particularly the 30-40 and 40-50 splits - clear to me that 30-40 was probably close to 0.84 and 40-50 should be 0.87 - but, if this is consistent from run to run maybe there is something strange that Tesla is doing to increase peak torque for a brief window...I doubt it though), but overall shows:
1) faster launch
2) faster split from 30-40, 40-50, and 50-60
3) peak torque is unchanged (same splits 10-20, 20-30)
In addition peak torque looks unchanged.
The attached splits show there is some noise in the data (probably need to average a few runs to get good splits -particularly the 30-40 and 40-50 splits - clear to me that 30-40 was probably close to 0.84 and 40-50 should be 0.87 - but, if this is consistent from run to run maybe there is something strange that Tesla is doing to increase peak torque for a brief window...I doubt it though), but overall shows:
1) faster launch
2) faster split from 30-40, 40-50, and 50-60
3) peak torque is unchanged (same splits 10-20, 20-30)
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
For the detail-oriented skeptics out there, I should add that I don’t really believe the 0-10 split from Dragy. As mentioned elsewhere, the first derivative of the velocity does not match the acceleration in the Dragy plots (and never does), so something is always a bit suspect.
However, for a relative comparison of 0-10 speed, this comparison is probably valid, and the new Dragy 0-10 are faster than before.
In reality, my guess is the 0-10 split is something like 0.9sec and the old split was about 1.0sec. These are just guesses though. (If the numbers were really as the table above suggests, it would indicate an increase in peak torque, but there is no real evidence of that in the acceleration plots.)
What’s clear is that if the acceleration data is to be believed, the 0-10 time is definitely slower than the 10-20 time, not faster (as my table above suggests).
In short, the velocity vs. time data in Dragy is probably not correct from 0-5 mph. It is not self consistent (v vs. a) and doesn’t align in general with VBOX results either.
But the basic conclusions I think are still valid since this is a relative comparison. The absolute numbers may not be precise though.
However, for a relative comparison of 0-10 speed, this comparison is probably valid, and the new Dragy 0-10 are faster than before.
In reality, my guess is the 0-10 split is something like 0.9sec and the old split was about 1.0sec. These are just guesses though. (If the numbers were really as the table above suggests, it would indicate an increase in peak torque, but there is no real evidence of that in the acceleration plots.)
What’s clear is that if the acceleration data is to be believed, the 0-10 time is definitely slower than the 10-20 time, not faster (as my table above suggests).
In short, the velocity vs. time data in Dragy is probably not correct from 0-5 mph. It is not self consistent (v vs. a) and doesn’t align in general with VBOX results either.
But the basic conclusions I think are still valid since this is a relative comparison. The absolute numbers may not be precise though.
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Very cool. I have the Long-Range Model 3. Can I expect similar improvements in acceleration with the update?
I also have some very basic questions about the update:
*How do I get the update? Is it like the software updates where I get a notification and then it's installed over-the-air?
*How do I tell what version of the firmware I'm currently running? On the app, it just says I'm on "Version 2019.5.15," which I'm guessing is the software version - not firmware. Is that right?
Thanks.
I also have some very basic questions about the update:
*How do I get the update? Is it like the software updates where I get a notification and then it's installed over-the-air?
*How do I tell what version of the firmware I'm currently running? On the app, it just says I'm on "Version 2019.5.15," which I'm guessing is the software version - not firmware. Is that right?
Thanks.
SammichLover
Banned
Yes, that's the way you get it.
Yes, you can see it there via the phone app or you can tap the "T" logo at the top of the instrument screen and it lists the version towards the bottom of that pop-up.
"Firmware" is the software. "Firmware" is a colloquial term that refers to software that is tied in tightly with the hardware. Contrast to optional applications that can be added, which the Tesla doesn't have, so that's why it is sometimes called "firmware" on the Tesla.
usofrob
Member
They generally advise connecting over Wi-Fi in order to get the firmware update.
Thanks mate . Great info. I was wondering how much it was , but really felt it in my son’s Lemur
No, from Tesla the LR gets a boost of just 5.2s to 5.0s | 0-60. I’m suspecting that when the MR first rolled out, they artificially nerfed the speed to give more differentiation compared to the long range so there would be more parity besides range. That’s probably why the MR is the only one that got more than 5% boost. Especially with my tax credit, I’m a happy camper now. Even though Tesla purchasing experience was a total nightmare including service.
diamond.g
Active Member
They roll out updates like Google does. Small group, then wider and wider. You will get a notification after the car has downloaded the update.
diamond.g
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