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2021 Shipping Movements
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It's a big ship and so I think we are looking at 24hrs to load in Shanghai ( 3 days longer anywhere else!)
GLOVIS COSMOS is now in the Caribbean and has updated her AIS confirming her destination as Zeebrugge with an ETA of 9 May (as predicted)
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GLOVIS COSMOS is now in the Caribbean heading for the Mona Passage at 16.5kts.
The weather in the Caribbean is looking fine for her transit to the Atlantic. Her ETA at Zeebrugge is 9 May.
LAKE FUXIAN is still alongside Pier 80 loading. She will be heading to Zeebrugge.
I have still no idea when she will depart Pier 80 but I am hopeful that I may find out later today. I think I would have heard by now if she was going to depart tomorrow.
If she departs on Friday morning I reckon she will arrive in Zeebrugge around 22 May.
GRAND SAPPHIRE It looks as though she is off to San Diego from Benicia and as suspected will not call at Pier 80 after all. She is of no further interest.
GLOVIS CHORUS the next ship that is supposed to arrive at Pier 80 left her anchorage off Vancouver yesterday to move alongside Annacis Island (Vancouver, Canada) to unload. She is not due to arrive at Pier 80 until Saturday.
GLORIOUS LEADER This ship is carrying Model 3’s to the UK from China.
She is presently in the Mediterranean making just over 15 kts and looks to be on time. I have no weather concerns for her in the Mediterranean at the moment.
ETA Southampton 5 May.
RCC AFRICA is carrying LHD Model 3's to Israel and EU from Shanghai .
Unbelievably the last satellite position report I received from her was last Thursday.
She must be in the Red Sea by now and she will be detected by terrestrial AIS receivers later today if she is on schedule.
She is due at Ashdod on 2 May. I expect her to arrive in Zeebrugge around 13 May at the earliest.
GLOVIS CORONA is currently heading for Singapore from Shanghai and is on my watch list.
GLOVIS SUN is currently loading in Shanghai and I expect her to depart later today to Zeebrugge.
GLOVIS SIRIUS. She is heading to Shanghai and should arrive there on 2 May. A veteran of several European runs from Pier 80 she is worth keeping an eye on.
The weather in the Caribbean is looking fine for her transit to the Atlantic. Her ETA at Zeebrugge is 9 May.
LAKE FUXIAN is still alongside Pier 80 loading. She will be heading to Zeebrugge.
I have still no idea when she will depart Pier 80 but I am hopeful that I may find out later today. I think I would have heard by now if she was going to depart tomorrow.
If she departs on Friday morning I reckon she will arrive in Zeebrugge around 22 May.
GRAND SAPPHIRE It looks as though she is off to San Diego from Benicia and as suspected will not call at Pier 80 after all. She is of no further interest.
GLOVIS CHORUS the next ship that is supposed to arrive at Pier 80 left her anchorage off Vancouver yesterday to move alongside Annacis Island (Vancouver, Canada) to unload. She is not due to arrive at Pier 80 until Saturday.
GLORIOUS LEADER This ship is carrying Model 3’s to the UK from China.
She is presently in the Mediterranean making just over 15 kts and looks to be on time. I have no weather concerns for her in the Mediterranean at the moment.
ETA Southampton 5 May.
RCC AFRICA is carrying LHD Model 3's to Israel and EU from Shanghai .
Unbelievably the last satellite position report I received from her was last Thursday.
She must be in the Red Sea by now and she will be detected by terrestrial AIS receivers later today if she is on schedule.
She is due at Ashdod on 2 May. I expect her to arrive in Zeebrugge around 13 May at the earliest.
GLOVIS CORONA is currently heading for Singapore from Shanghai and is on my watch list.
GLOVIS SUN is currently loading in Shanghai and I expect her to depart later today to Zeebrugge.
GLOVIS SIRIUS. She is heading to Shanghai and should arrive there on 2 May. A veteran of several European runs from Pier 80 she is worth keeping an eye on.
For those wondering about the post from @howardoark earlier today - the picture shows the latest state of the salvage of GOLDEN RAY.
In Feb 19 the GOLDEN RAY docked at Pier 80 and loaded its precious Tesla cargo and departed for China.
This was a comparatively new ship entering service in 2017, benefitting from a modern bridge and all the advantages that modern computer technology can bring. Although like many other pure vehicle carriers she was 200 metres long she was a bit wider at just over 35 metres. That extra width allowed her to carry up to 7700 cars. She left Pier 80 on 13 Feb 19 and arrived safely in Shanghai on 1 Mar 19.
Six months later disaster struck.
On 8 Sep 19 the GOLDEN RAY was leaving Brunswick, Georgia en route to Baltimore. She had onboard about 4500 Kia and Hyundai cars and as she entered the Atlantic she started to list. In an action reminscent of the HOEGH OSAKA incident in the Solent in Jan 2015, the local pilot immediately steered the vessel towards shallow water to prevent a total capsize. 23 crew members were rescued unharmed although for 4 of them trapped in the engine room with an uncontrolled fire it was a close run thing. The HOEGH OSAKA was refloated by the salvage company, subsequently repaired and quickly returned to service. That's not the case with the GOLDEN RAY - it's still at the mouth of the river, lying on it's side. It is being totally dismantled in situ.
The US NTSB has yet to report on the GOLDEN RAY accident but the UK Maritime Accident Investigation Branch has issued its report on the HOEGH OSAKA incident which is an interesting read.
Vehicle carriers do not have a good safety record. The accidents and incidents can be largely grouped into 2 different cause groups - Fire and Instability.
Let’s look at fires first of all. 5 major fires since January 2019 that I am aware of:
January 2019 SINCERITY ACE caught fire whilst crossing the Pacific with 3500 Nissans on board. 5 Crewman died
March 2019 GRANDE AMERICA caught fire and sank in the Bay of Biscay
May 2019 GRANDE EUROPA caught fire whilst off the Spanish coast in the Mediterranean. It had no less than 2 separate fires in brand new vehicles within the space of 4 hours.
June 2019 DIAMOND HIGHWAY was abandoned in the South China Sea because of a fire onboard.
June 2020 HOEGH XIAMEN caught fire whilst loading at Jacksonville Florida. Despite the fire service being on scene very quickly and using drones with IR cameras to detect hot spots, the ship continued to burn for days and was a total loss. This fire was very concerning since if a fire cannot be extinguished when alongside with the benefit of a fully equipped fire service using fire boats and all the latest technology, what chance would it have at sea?
The causation of most of these fires is put down to car batteries, that’s normal ICE 12V car batteries on brand new cars. No, I don’t suppose you read about these horrific incidents in the Daily Mail since they didn’t involve a Tesla.
The other major issue with these ships is their stability or rather potential instability. Generally there are 2 reasons for stability issues the first of which is water ingress and the second is failing to ballast or trim the vessel properly. Occasionally the latter leads to the former.
Typing the following incidents into a search engine will produce an eye-opening read:
Dec 02 TRICOLOR Enroute from Zeebrugge to Southampton sank following collision. Notoriously hit twice more by 2 different vessels.
Jul 06 COUGAR ACE Developed a severe list
Dec 12 BALTIC ACE 11 died following a collision
Jan 15 HOEGH OSAKA Developed a severe list
Jan 16 MODERN EXPRESS Severe list
Sep 19 GOLDEN RAY Capsized
The American NTSB report on the GOLDEN RAY is yet to be published, however there were some US Coastguard hearings in September from which you can get a very good idea of what went on.
Additionally @XHabjab posted here a very informative post with links to the GOLDEN RAY accident.
There is an excellent article here that covers the incident with some great photos.
In Feb 19 the GOLDEN RAY docked at Pier 80 and loaded its precious Tesla cargo and departed for China.
This was a comparatively new ship entering service in 2017, benefitting from a modern bridge and all the advantages that modern computer technology can bring. Although like many other pure vehicle carriers she was 200 metres long she was a bit wider at just over 35 metres. That extra width allowed her to carry up to 7700 cars. She left Pier 80 on 13 Feb 19 and arrived safely in Shanghai on 1 Mar 19.
Six months later disaster struck.
On 8 Sep 19 the GOLDEN RAY was leaving Brunswick, Georgia en route to Baltimore. She had onboard about 4500 Kia and Hyundai cars and as she entered the Atlantic she started to list. In an action reminscent of the HOEGH OSAKA incident in the Solent in Jan 2015, the local pilot immediately steered the vessel towards shallow water to prevent a total capsize. 23 crew members were rescued unharmed although for 4 of them trapped in the engine room with an uncontrolled fire it was a close run thing. The HOEGH OSAKA was refloated by the salvage company, subsequently repaired and quickly returned to service. That's not the case with the GOLDEN RAY - it's still at the mouth of the river, lying on it's side. It is being totally dismantled in situ.
The US NTSB has yet to report on the GOLDEN RAY accident but the UK Maritime Accident Investigation Branch has issued its report on the HOEGH OSAKA incident which is an interesting read.
Vehicle carriers do not have a good safety record. The accidents and incidents can be largely grouped into 2 different cause groups - Fire and Instability.
Let’s look at fires first of all. 5 major fires since January 2019 that I am aware of:
January 2019 SINCERITY ACE caught fire whilst crossing the Pacific with 3500 Nissans on board. 5 Crewman died
March 2019 GRANDE AMERICA caught fire and sank in the Bay of Biscay
May 2019 GRANDE EUROPA caught fire whilst off the Spanish coast in the Mediterranean. It had no less than 2 separate fires in brand new vehicles within the space of 4 hours.
June 2019 DIAMOND HIGHWAY was abandoned in the South China Sea because of a fire onboard.
June 2020 HOEGH XIAMEN caught fire whilst loading at Jacksonville Florida. Despite the fire service being on scene very quickly and using drones with IR cameras to detect hot spots, the ship continued to burn for days and was a total loss. This fire was very concerning since if a fire cannot be extinguished when alongside with the benefit of a fully equipped fire service using fire boats and all the latest technology, what chance would it have at sea?
The causation of most of these fires is put down to car batteries, that’s normal ICE 12V car batteries on brand new cars. No, I don’t suppose you read about these horrific incidents in the Daily Mail since they didn’t involve a Tesla.
The other major issue with these ships is their stability or rather potential instability. Generally there are 2 reasons for stability issues the first of which is water ingress and the second is failing to ballast or trim the vessel properly. Occasionally the latter leads to the former.
Typing the following incidents into a search engine will produce an eye-opening read:
Dec 02 TRICOLOR Enroute from Zeebrugge to Southampton sank following collision. Notoriously hit twice more by 2 different vessels.
Jul 06 COUGAR ACE Developed a severe list
Dec 12 BALTIC ACE 11 died following a collision
Jan 15 HOEGH OSAKA Developed a severe list
Jan 16 MODERN EXPRESS Severe list
Sep 19 GOLDEN RAY Capsized
The American NTSB report on the GOLDEN RAY is yet to be published, however there were some US Coastguard hearings in September from which you can get a very good idea of what went on.
Additionally @XHabjab posted here a very informative post with links to the GOLDEN RAY accident.
There is an excellent article here that covers the incident with some great photos.
Oh no
I hope your information is delayed this time and the FUXIAN is going to depart tomorrow
Confirmed so far this Quarter:
GLOVIS COSMOS from Pier 80
GLORIOUS LEADER from Shanghai to Southampton
RCC AFRICA from Shanghai to Zeebrugge
I'm aware that on other forums there is excitement, some quite vocal, that SEBRING EXPRESS will call at Pier 80.
I want to assure you that if any ship is likely to call at Pier 80 you will hear it here first.
Even if she called at Pier 80, SEBRING EXPRESS is a smaller ship - too small for Tesla to charter for a Zeebrugge run.
In any case SEBRING EXPRESS will depart from Benicia in the early hours of Friday morning.
I only mention it to prevent the delusional hysteria spreading to this thread.
Having said all that, I hope I'm right!
I want to assure you that if any ship is likely to call at Pier 80 you will hear it here first.
Even if she called at Pier 80, SEBRING EXPRESS is a smaller ship - too small for Tesla to charter for a Zeebrugge run.
In any case SEBRING EXPRESS will depart from Benicia in the early hours of Friday morning.
I only mention it to prevent the delusional hysteria spreading to this thread.
Having said all that, I hope I'm right!
If you were a betting man @Mr Miserable would you put money on GLOVIS SIRIUS & GLOVIS CORONA being the next 2 ships to bring M3's to the UK? With CORONA being the 3rd ship and therefore probably carrying the M3P - this would possibly align with the sketchy info we (those awaiting M3P) are getting from Tesla in the UK.
Edit: Delusion and hysteria may well apply here of course
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To be absolutely honest, I haven't a clue. If I were a betting man I would have lost money on LAKE GENEVA!If you were a betting man @Mr Miserable would you put money on GLOVIS SERIUS & GLOVIS CORONA being the next 2 ships to bring M3's to the UK? With CORONA being the 3rd ship and therefore probably carrying the M3P - this would possibly align with the sketchy info we (those awaiting M3P) are getting from Tesla in the UK.
Edit: Delusion and hysteria may well apply here of course
A year or so ago, European schedules were published and port bookings were made months in advance. This made identifying which ships were coming to Europe and roughly when, a fairly easy task, given time to trawl through them all.
At the moment, schedules are only being published about a month or so in advance and port bookings made as TBC rather than a ship name. Then they change at the drop of a hat! (eg when Suez gets blocked)
As far as Shanghai is concerned I am fairly confident that I won't miss a ship and will be able to identify likely suspects but nailing them down before Suez is nigh on impossible at the moment. Quite frankly, the best source is a friendly soul in your local Tesla showroom. If you get a name of a ship from them - please let me know!
As far as Pier 80 is concerned, this has also become much harder. Here it used to be true that the only ships using Pier 80 were 'Tesla ships'. That has changed with the container ship crisis. With Long Beach being closed to RoRo's other ports are being used instead including Pier 80. The port schedules up and down the California coast are constantly changing and its difficult to say which schedule is correct and which is not at the moment. Take GRAND SAPPHIRE for example - on Saturday I got wind that she may not be heading to Pier 80 and noticed that she had appeared on Hueneme port schedule for the 28th and 29th Apr. She also appeared on San Diego's port schedule for the 29th as arriving from Mexico. Of course she appears on the current San Francisco Port schedule as arriving at Pier 80 on 28 Apr. This is crazy. How is a diligent Tesla ship tracker meant to do his job?
Today I am still pretty confident that LAKE FUXIAN and GLOVIS CENTURY will be heading for Europe however tomorrow ....
GLOVIS CHORUS is meant to be the next ship in to Pier 80 on Saturday however that is looking touch and go at the moment.
To compound the Pier 80 situation one of my most reliable sources has been struck down with COVID. He's not been in contact for over a week now and I hope he is fighting through this horrible disease and that his family have been spared. My thoughts are with them.
GLOVIS CENTURY Regular readers will know that I think this ship will be heading to Europe this quarter and I still do HOWEVER it may not be as soon as we think and she may not necessarily be a "Tesla ship". I note that she appears on the Hueneme port schedule on 18 May. She remains booked into Bremerhaven on 15 Jun. Make of this whatever you like, the Hueneme port schedule could be wrong.....
I wrote earlier about Long Beach being closed to RoRo's and within an hour I see a RoRo passing San Francisco enroute there and then note that there is a RoRo parked there! What is going on here??
XHabjab
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It's amusing to me that I was just about to write something about the Golden Ray and you beat me to it. My wife and I were in the area just before the wreck happened in 2019 and our Tesla brought us here again now. Your Car & Driver reference is very good so there is no room to embellish written facts of the situation.
But pictures: Here is a picture I took with my phone from Driftwood Beach on Jekyl Island (south side of the channel) of the Golden Ray with the St. Simon's lighthouse to the right. (Looking North)
Apologies for lack of picture cropping/editting. I only have my phone with me.
I had thought that they would be interested in hauling the wreck away quicker since many viewing angles from the channel hide the lighthouse, which at one time was a primary means of navigation. Probably not now.
As I walked on the beach, another RORO passed the Golden Ray on the way out to sea (about 16:51 ET Apr 28). I'll let someone else figure out which one.
I'm sure this is a sobering sight for any RORO crew watching that roll by.
The local buzz is that the job is about 75% complete with about one third of the ship gone. Why don't the numbers match? The first part of the job was figuring out how to get the job done, who would do it, then getting equipment in place.
Your link to my first article is broken. The message I wrote is here .
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Good morning Mr Miserable I’m sorry to ask this as I’m sure you must have been asked this loads of times, can you let me know from leaving the dock side at Shanghai to arriving in Southampton how many days the journey takes
As I am in the process of buying my first model 3 I have been following this page with much interest. I do not know if this picture is of use but grabbed from a uk Tesla Facebook group by someone who ordered a car at the weekend.
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