This is the best video I’ve seen showing the park assist so far. Sadly it’s in German but the footage of the system working is good. And you get to learn the German for ‘mind blowing’ (it’s ‘mindblowing’)
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2023 Holiday Update Imminent
- Thread starter JamesEarl15
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Received holiday update 2023.44.30.1 on Saturday. Initially I was hesitant about updating, but in about 30 miles of AP travel on the freeway I haven't noticed any difference in nags, still need to try it on some 2 lane roads. The 3d visuals for parking are ok, much better than the prior squiggly lines. I don't get the usual insane amount of beeps and dings from grass when backing into my driveway anymore. I'm also currently enjoying the old-school car alarm chirp on walk-away lock.
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The randomness of the software updates is driving me a bit crazy. Have had my 23MYP for just under 3 months and this is what has happened (using notateslaapp 1st avail dates):
As for those with USS, he also comments that it "should eventually" arrive
From my perspective as a new owner, the parking assist as it stands on my 23MYP is horrible given no USS. Every car I've ever owned in the past 15 years (with USS) has been better than the garbage it presently is and it's so bad, my wife won't even pull it in/out of the garage with about 6 inches of clearance on each side from the outside of each mirror.
So getting all of these newer vehicles at least up to a reasonable ability to sense obstacles (as it appears the .44.30+ update will do) is the right priority in my opinion (and not just because I have a 23MYP). A lot of people focus on the lack of Autopark/Summon/Smart Summon in non-USS vehicles but realize too that even Parking Assist is fully disclaimed in the current manual for Model Y's after late May 2023.
- 9/29/23 1800 2023.32.100 11.4.4 Initial Vehicle Purchase - s/w mode std - (this version was 1st avail 9/24/23)
- 11/29/23 1928 2023.38.9 11.4.4 Moved from Std to advanced to get update - (this version was1st avail 11/21/23)
- 12/15/23 1017 2023.44.1 11.4.4 Rebooted, checked updates to get it to update - (this version was1st avail 11/23/23)
As for those with USS, he also comments that it "should eventually" arrive
From my perspective as a new owner, the parking assist as it stands on my 23MYP is horrible given no USS. Every car I've ever owned in the past 15 years (with USS) has been better than the garbage it presently is and it's so bad, my wife won't even pull it in/out of the garage with about 6 inches of clearance on each side from the outside of each mirror.
So getting all of these newer vehicles at least up to a reasonable ability to sense obstacles (as it appears the .44.30+ update will do) is the right priority in my opinion (and not just because I have a 23MYP). A lot of people focus on the lack of Autopark/Summon/Smart Summon in non-USS vehicles but realize too that even Parking Assist is fully disclaimed in the current manual for Model Y's after late May 2023.
Fully agree. Now if they'd just include an Audible.com app, I could do away with Bluetooth audio in the car entirely.
It certainly looks like an improvement over the current "squiggly lines" - though I'll have to try it out to see if I trust it. The current squiggly lines are simply not accurate so pretty useless - it thinks the curb to my driveway is dangerous and warns me to STOP. Fortunately I've never much relied on parking assist anyway in any car I've owned. YMMV
PEMDAS
Member
I'm really annoyed by the latest update. (2023.44.30.2). I purchased a car that has "autopilot" – not a car that has autopilot when Tesla feels I am worthy of autopilot. Tesla now bans you from using autopilot for a week if it force disconnects you five times. Now my experience is that Tesla force disconnects you even when your driving is fine. This feels like a breach of contract by Tesla. I paid for autopilot and Tesla should not now be applying conditions that were not part of my agreement when I purchased the car.
The changes were mandated by the NHTSA, weren’t they?
zoomer0056
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Annoyed? You can blame NHTSA and fellow Darwin Award holders.
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PEMDAS
Member
They were AGREED to by Tesla. They weren't mandated. Tesla will get sued over this. Class action.
PEMDAS
Member
The NHTSA didn't require this. Tesla came up with it.
Actually, they pretty much did. If Tesla didn't voluntarily make the changes that NHTSA suggested, NHTSA would have forced a recall, requiring Tesla to make the changes.
This was likely the minimum changes that NHTSA would agree to in order for them to close their investigation without forcing a recall.
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If Tesla didn’t do something voluntarily do you think the NHTSA would have just said ‘oh,OK, we were wrong, it’s fine as it is’?
And if you left it to NHTSA to define the remedy, do you think you’d have got a less invasive outcome?
Also, I’ve used AP quite a lot and I have never, ever got to the point of a forced disconnect. If you’re doing it often enough to be worried about this then you are driving negligently.
That’s a gross misrepresentation, self serving on your part. NHTSA has been investigating since 2021, Tesla is trying to avoid a worse outcome from NHTSA. You should be applauding their efforts - but you've already decided to be outraged. https://www.reuters.com/business/au...ontrol-issue-2-mln-vehicles-nhtsa-2023-12-13/
webshot
Member
Same here! I tried the following audio devices - 2 JBL, one cheapy from Amazon, and one Samsung. It does not see any of them. I'm very disappointed.
I have a late 2021 refresh.
I did get a PS5 controller to pair, but nothing from Xbox and no Apple Airpods.
ucmndd
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I've driven ~200,000 miles in autopilot-equipped Teslas and I'm pretty sure I haven't had five forced disengagements TOTAL. Over seven years.
If you're getting to five with any sort of regularity, you're absolutely not using Autopilot correctly.
ucmndd
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Those aren’t forced disengagements though, which happen when you repeatedly and deliberately ignore the escalating audible and visual warnings to apply force to the wheel, or when you accelerate beyond the autosteer speed limit (used to be 90 mph, now I think it’s 85 in vision cars?).
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