You seem really focused on wheels, but oblivious to much larger items like wheel sizes. I wonder why...You seem really focused on wheels, but oblivious to much larger items like AWD. I wonder why...
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2024 Chevy Blazer EV: Up to 320 mile range, MSRP between $45-$66k, plus a “Police Pursuit” model
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190KW charging doesnt sound too bad tbh. I think most folks could probably get away with charging via a standard outlet on these. I am curious to see what the AWD package for the 2LT trim will cost. Seems like a good option for folks that may not want to go in on the minimalist interior design as well.
According to the OP, 190 kW charging yields just 78 miles of range in ten minutes. It's unclear if that's for a single or dual motor Blazer.
For comparison, my 4-year-old, 140,000-mile Model 3 can charge from 5% to 50% (+30 kWh) in ten minutes (source), yielding 123 miles of rated range (accounting for current degradation).
If a new Y-LR can also charge 5% to 50% in ten minutes, that would yield 148 miles of rated range. If we correct that by 0.8 for Tesla's optimistic EPA figures, we're at 118 miles of real-world range in ten minutes, or 50% better than the Blazer.
Edit: According to a test by Kyle from Out of Spec (source), the Y-LR can do 5% to 44% (+33 kWh) in 10 minutes. 128.7 miles of rated range * 0.8 = 103 miles of real world range, or 33% better than the Blazer.
For comparison, my 4-year-old, 140,000-mile Model 3 can charge from 5% to 50% (+30 kWh) in ten minutes (source), yielding 123 miles of rated range (accounting for current degradation).
If a new Y-LR can also charge 5% to 50% in ten minutes, that would yield 148 miles of rated range. If we correct that by 0.8 for Tesla's optimistic EPA figures, we're at 118 miles of real-world range in ten minutes, or 50% better than the Blazer.
Edit: According to a test by Kyle from Out of Spec (source), the Y-LR can do 5% to 44% (+33 kWh) in 10 minutes. 128.7 miles of rated range * 0.8 = 103 miles of real world range, or 33% better than the Blazer.
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My concern about this Blazer thing is that lower-priced trims will be totally killed in competition against VW ID.4. Mary likes to talk about cheap under $40k cars, but GM it is increasingly evident that GM will be unable to deliver on Mary's words. She is a liar who screams for SEC scrutiny. I think so starting with the Nikola story when GM tried to use investor money to develop its own manufacturing facilities supposedly to build something for Nikola. I am glad that Nikola was mainly put down, but I strongly believe GM shall go the same way as Nikola.
bkp_duke
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Apparently this car is not going to be built in the USA:
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TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
Automotive pouch cell - extreme temperatures, vibration etc - means risks of shorts & REALLY big bag of gas bursting, combusts in air, lots of energy, little to stop spreading to other cells (thermal runaway).
LFP (Iron Phosphate) or well engineered cylinders for safety & longevity. Why more OEMs aren't embracing LFP is probably down to inefficient drivertrains & aerodynamics. LFP seems like best option for volume EV adoption (for now).
LFP (Iron Phosphate) or well engineered cylinders for safety & longevity. Why more OEMs aren't embracing LFP is probably down to inefficient drivertrains & aerodynamics. LFP seems like best option for volume EV adoption (for now).
Yea, Tesla has better charging rates, but most of the people buying these will be first time EV owners; not Tesla owners. With most folks only doing 30-40 miles a day, many should be able to get by charging with just a standard outlet (I did the same with my M3P for 6 months.) In the event they do need to use a level 2 charger, sure it’ll be slower than a Tesla, but most folks will not have a personal reference to judge by. It doesn’t seem like a huge con for folks that may only need to do it a few times a year.
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I have test drove ev6, saw ioniq 5, drove id4. Drove mach e. They do not compare to my model y performance. Hands down usability. Reliability, headroom, battery tech. User interface, Tesla wins... There's a reason why Tesla is selling hundreds of thousands of y compared to tens of thousands of all the other EV cuv / SUV listed. Teslas battery tech is light years ahead.
Sure, the average experience of someone just doing the daily grind will be just fine - similar to a Tesla. But once they take a road trip to a national park or grandma's house, they're going to have a less optimal experience.
People already have a negative impression of EVs on extended road trips, and a slow-charging, inefficient car is going to reinforce that negative impression. I can't count the number of times someone (non-EV owner; prospective buyer) has expressed concern over how long it takes to do a drive they might only do once or twice per year, even when the daily time and money savings are significant.
Check out some of the videos about F-150 Lightning road trips and make note of how long they spend charging. The Blazer will be better than that, but it illustrates my point.
Charging infrastructure sucks AF for non Tesla's. I would never...
That reason is that other automakers can't make enough BEVs.
It's a seller's market right now.
Almost anything would sell, assuming that it is not a total dud.
Right. Even the Bolt EV (with probably the worst EV recall in recent memory) is expected to rebound to record sales. That has a max charging speed of 55KW (less than a third of the Blazer EV) and was still practically sold out prior to the stop-sale.
The Chevy Bolt was fine for 2016. The problem is that it hasn't been significantly updated since then.
ZenRockGarden
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Selling them at a post-recall price that's so low that it has negative margins may be part of why there's demand.