32 Amp Commando

[Hurricane]

Hi folks.

I took delivery of my M3P a couple of weeks ago and will be getting an Andersen charge point fitted. However, because I’m having work to the house done that won’t be until after Easter. To tide me over I’ve had a 32 Amp commando socket fitted and bought a dedicated charging lead (a Duosida). Problem is I’m only getting maximum of 20 Amp charge. The car screen shows “20/20” charge current, which I presume means the car thinks there is only 20 Amps available. I can’t increase this via the screen.

The control unit on the charge cable lets me set a current of 32, 16, 13 or 10 Amps. If I reduce it to 16, 13 or 10 Amps then the car screen shows the same. But when I increase it to 32 Amps the car still shows a charge rate of 20 Amps, 18 miles per hour and no way to increase it.

I don’t suppose many people use commando sockets, but I’d really appreciate it if anyone has any advice. Thanks!

 

[Adopado]

Hi folks.

I took delivery of my M3P a couple of weeks ago and will be getting an Andersen charge point fitted. However, because I’m having work to the house done that won’t be until after Easter. To tide me over I’ve had a 32 Amp commando socket fitted and bought a dedicated charging lead (a Duosida). Problem is I’m only getting maximum of 20 Amp charge. The car screen shows “20/20” charge current, which I presume means the car thinks there is only 20 Amps available. I can’t increase this via the screen.

The control unit on the charge cable lets me set a current of 32, 16, 13 or 10 Amps. If I reduce it to 16, 13 or 10 Amps then the car screen shows the same. But when I increase it to 32 Amps the car still shows a charge rate of 20 Amps, 18 miles per hour and no way to increase it.

I don’t suppose many people use commando sockets, but I’d really appreciate it if anyone has any advice. Thanks!

Does the Tesla UMC charge at 32 amp or do you not have an adapter for that one?

 

[Generator]

I use the 32A commando adapter for charger that came with the car. and get 32A.

 

[Adopado]

Maybe the answer is to carry the new granny lead in the car and use the Telsa UMC for the 32amp charging.

 

[Hurricane]

Does the Tesla UMC charge at 32 amp or do you not have an adapter for that one?

No, I don’t have the adapter so I can’t try the Tesla UMC. What puzzles me is that the car seems to think that only 20 Amps is available.

 

[Adopado]

No, I don’t have the adapter so I can’t try the Tesla UMC. What puzzles me is that the car seems to think that only 20 Amps is available.

Maybe someone local can lend you a 32 amp adapter for the Tesla UMC to test. I'm guessing that there is an issue with your cable/adapter. Do you have a link for the one you have?

 

[*Adam]

Maybe someone local can lend you a 32 amp adapter for the Tesla UMC to test. I'm guessing that there is an issue with your cable/adapter. Do you have a link for the one you have?

Hurricane, if you’re in Hampshire or Dorset I have a 32a UMC adaptor you can try.

 

[Glan gluaisne]

From the description, I'd say the Duosida box is most probably only advertising 32 A to the car. In general (with the exception of the known scheduled charging 16 A bug) the car accurately reports the advertised current from the charge point in the right hand figure. If that's consistently showing 20 A, then it suggests strongly that the Duosida box is advertising that only 20 A is available, i.e. a control pilot duty cycle of 33.33%, rather than the 53.33% duty cycle needed to signal that 32 A is available.

 

[Hurricane]

Hurricane, if you’re in Hampshire or Dorset I have a 32a UMC adaptor you can try.

Many thanks, Adam, unfortunately I’m in Lancashire

 

[LukeT]

Hurricane, if you’re in Hampshire or Dorset I have a 32a UMC adaptor you can try.

@Hurricane I was going to say the same thing. Welcome to borrow mine too. I'm variously between Devon and Northamptonshire.

Out of interest why buy the third party one when you have the tesla one already (except the fairly inexpensive adapter)?

 

[Hurricane]

@Hurricane I was going to say the same thing. Welcome to borrow mine too. I'm variously between Devon and Northamptonshire.

Out of interest why buy the third party one when you have the tesla one already (except the fairly inexpensive adapter)?

Thanks, Luke.

Good question! I wanted to keep the complete Tesla supplied UMC kit in the car in case I ever needed it. Also, the Andersen unti is expensive (but aesthetically pleasing), especially as I’m not eligible for the OLEV grant, so I thought I might keep the commando as a permanent solution if it worked out ok.

 

[Hurricane]

From the description, I'd say the Duosida box is most probably only advertising 32 A to the car. In general (with the exception of the known scheduled charging 16 A bug) the car accurately reports the advertised current from the charge point in the right hand figure. If that's consistently showing 20 A, then it suggests strongly that the Duosida box is advertising that only 20 A is available, i.e. a control pilot duty cycle of 33.33%, rather than the 53.33% duty cycle needed to signal that 32 A is available.

That makes sense to me. It’s not as if there’s even an option to select an output of 20 A from the Duosida - it’s 32,16,13 or 10.

 

[Adopado]

That makes sense to me. It’s not as if there’s even an option to select an output of 20 A from the Duosida - it’s 32,16,13 or 10.

Before returning the cable maybe you try it with another EV if there's anybody in your vicinity? It would be surprising if it turned out to be the car in my opinion.