mklcolvin
#P-5058
BTW, where is the tethering option that was promised? I'd much rather use my existing data plans than to add a new one!
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Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, I went for my long drive and I do feel a lot better. But guess what, during my nice long drive in the canyons, in an area that I haven't been before, the stupid Screen went black except for the pointer. No 3G, no maps, no way to know where I was going. This is pure crap. I am not bothered by paying for 3G. I am horrified at having to pay a monthly charge OF ANY AMOUNT for something I for which I have already paid! I bought GPS and Nav and I expect it to work all of the time. I shouldn't have to carry a hand held GPS to correct for the operational gaps in this system - monthly charge or not.
The mobile app!
Since we all seem to be chiming in, I'll add my 2 bits...
I think that if someone wants 3G/4G/LTE as a complete stand alone then $30 isn't terrible. Hard to get any device with 3g without paying at least that much if it is a stand alone device.
I think that 95% of us should be allowed to add on 3G/4G/LTE in our Tesla to our existing cellular account--which for most of us would be an additional $10/mo.
I think the option of tethering with no imbedded 3G should be available, but, IMO, this is less than ideal, my wife's phone doesn't tether, I'd like the car to be able to receive updates and to be able to access the various app functions at all times. it is not the option I would choose, but can understand that for some it would be adequate.
Finally, if we are forced to pay the $30 rate it is inevitable that someone is gonna hack this thing, figure out where the SIM is located and we're all gonna be replacing the SIM with a much cheaper option, probably an add on to our cellular accounts or Straight-Talk or something like that.
That's a good thought that I hadn't considered, would certainly be cheaper to buy that and pay $10/mo than to pay $30/mo ongoing.I should add, that if I can buy a hotspot device that can be left in the car and I can add it to my plan for an additional $10, then that would work as well.
I know. It's terrible. This was from the rooftop of a parking garage in the Chicago area. I think it's just very congested.
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The title of this thread is quite misleading. There's nothing remotely official (even 1% official, whatever that means) about it. For all we know, some developer pulled a placeholder number out of their proverbial a** and put it in their code and moved on.
Let's be real here. I paid the better part of $4000 for a Nav system package. I EXPECT to get a Nav package that WORKS without additional fees, just like every other car brand on the planet...(edited for the sake of digital storage worldwide) ... these are ancient technologies we are talking about and there should be no problems at least matching equivalent cars.
Damnit, I'm going to go drive somewhere.
Kevin, how do we most easily measure the speed?
If Tesla is really paying $30 per month per car for the service, then really, they need a new Sourcing/Procurement department. Honestly, any schmo off the street can get 3GB of 4G bandwidth for that price. Tesla, making an exclusive deal with them, couldn't do any better?
Yep, the problem is a car doesn't really fit the usage profile of any of those items. You use a phone, tablet, gaming item very frequently and for the ubiquitous always-with-you nature of the device. You only use the Tesla while you're driving it, barring rare occasions where you'd be browsing while parked at a supercharger or some such. The usage model just doesn't fit the pricing plans. And the usage profile is very restricted, basically Google Maps and streaming music.This is EXACTLY what I expected. I mean look at ATT pricing for data. Why would they give Tesla a price break? I bet Tesla at least negotiated for 'unlimited' data.
Tesla NEEDS to keep Google maps operative regardless if we sign up for the added charge or not. They are OBLIGATED to meet their commitment for Nav and GPS for owners who paid for it up front. Web, Slacker, traffic data and all of the other 3G related services are certainly not Tesla's responsibility for free. That has been understood from the very beginning.
Yep, the problem is a car doesn't really fit the usage profile of any of those items. You use a phone, tablet, gaming item very frequently and for the ubiquitous always-with-you nature of the device. You only use the Tesla while you're driving it, barring rare occasions where you'd be browsing while parked at a supercharger or some such. The usage model just doesn't fit the pricing plans. And the usage profile is very restricted, basically Google Maps and streaming music.
I'm sure the plan on paper looks fine for $30/month, but when compared to how it's going to be used, that's expensive. Who'd spend $30/month for Google Maps?
Tesla NEEDS to keep Google maps operative regardless if we sign up for the added charge or not. They are OBLIGATED to meet their commitment for Nav and GPS for owners who paid for it up front. Web, Slacker, traffic data and all of the other 3G related services are certainly not Tesla's responsibility for free. That has been understood from the very beginning.
Large screen aside, why would anyone pay the thousands for NAV then when my 300 dollar stand alone GPS will do the job better and I get lifetime updates included? I don't see the point of having the big screen if you can't use it for anything.