I guess the handful of "real" owners can't be bothered to post a YouTube review. Lol
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Rivian R1T deliveries in Canada pushed back to July 2022, R1S deliveries in the US delayed to May 2022 [Update]
If you are an early Rivian R1T reservation holder in Canada, or live in the United States and were hoping to receive your R1S electric SUV soon, it looks like you are in for an […]
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If this poll taken at rivianforums is correct it means Rivian will deliver ~550 trucks between now and Feb 28,2022. Rivian customer service reps delays are due to parts shortages.
Where they blindside by chip shortages? Or is Samsung not delivering 2170s?
Where they blindside by chip shortages? Or is Samsung not delivering 2170s?
Seeing how they still aren't delivering customer trucks yet, I'd wager they discovered some issues with the production line while making the employee trucks and are now retooling and reworking the lines a bit, thus the delays. The initial run rate of 1.5 trucks per day pointed to obvious problems.
Hopefully they get it all worked out soon, as Rivian has a huge first mover opportunity here in the EV truck space. It would be a shame if they squandered it.
Hopefully they get it all worked out soon, as Rivian has a huge first mover opportunity here in the EV truck space. It would be a shame if they squandered it.
Ouch, 1 week out to 1 year for Canadian reservation holders. That's quite the rug pull.Rivian R1T deliveries in Canada pushed back to July 2022, R1S deliveries in the US delayed to May 2022 [Update]
If you are an early Rivian R1T reservation holder in Canada, or live in the United States and were hoping to receive your R1S electric SUV soon, it looks like you are in for an […]
I know a few years ago when they were in Austin at the Circuits of America, They were always talking to themselves that second morning trying to be hush hush. They had a tape measure and was measuring the height of the wheel well from the carpet. It was kind of a weird feeling as if they were attempting to hide things. Funny thing is they never had anything for any of the reservation holders to drive around. E-tron was there, Chevy was there and a couple others allowing people to take a drive. I really thought they would be much further along after watching Long Way Up I did buy into the stock with robinhood but I'm down $80. I am up $50 from my 6 shares of Ford. Who would have thought.
Honestly I'm a little surprised the news of these huge production delays haven't tanked the stock today, I don't think the market seems to care whether Rivian delivers anything or not!
They obviously have a great truck designed, the First Ride demos all went very well and the trucks performed great on the Long Way Up. I think they are just having initial production woes, which isn't too surprising since volume production is very hard.
They obviously have a great truck designed, the First Ride demos all went very well and the trucks performed great on the Long Way Up. I think they are just having initial production woes, which isn't too surprising since volume production is very hard.
Guess most people assumed there would be delays since just about every other manufacturer has experienced delays.
Doggydogworld
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Rivian's November 1 S-1/A filing added a new sentence:
That was still in the Prospectus (424B4) filed 11/12/21 and represents official company guidance until they change it.
They produced 56 R1Ts from 9/14 through 10/22. They then produced 124 R1Ts in nine days to reach 180 on 10/31. Continuing that late October pace would put them at 1020 on New Year's Eve.
I don't think they planned to continue that ~14 truck per day (20/weekday?) pace, though. Auto production lines are designed for ~60 second takt time. That's roughly 500 cars per shift, or ~120k/year per shift. I figure Rivian built a "short line", with multiple steps per station and a takt time of several minutes. But even that would be 100-200 vehicles per shift.
IMHO they ran one car at a time the first 5+ weeks, with engineers carefully following each car through each station. Then in late October they ran continuous, either in short bursts or for a full shift but with one car every ~5 slots instead of one car every slot.
I consider these early trucks to be Manufacturing Verification Builds (MVBs). OEMs historically built a few hundred MVBs on the real production line 6-9 months before the start of mass production. They let employees use them as daily drivers to uncover production line problems. They never sell MVBs, instead cannibalizing or crushing them when the program ends. It only takes a few days to build the MVBs, then they shut the line down and use the 6-9 months to fix manufacturing problems the employees find. While this seems like a huge waste of time, historically there were good logistical and accounting reasons behind it.
Tesla instead sold pre-production cars to employees and friendly investor/board member types, fixing problems on the fly. Rivian seemed to be following Tesla's approach. But these delays are a sign they changed course. I don't see them delivering another 800+ R1Ts to employees this year, so the original plan must have included end-customer deliveries next month. We don't know what caused the change. Maybe supply chain, maybe some severe line problems cropped up, maybe something else.
Doug reviews an R1T. When he does his ad for his auction site he is standing behind an Air.
Spoiler Alert!
Doug Score for Trucks
Rivian got 2nd highest score ever overall 73.
McLaren F1 got 74
Doug Score for Trucks
Rivian got 2nd highest score ever overall 73.
McLaren F1 got 74
Rivian doesn't have any secret sauce to fix towing range. Owners can spend $ and buy the bigger battery pack.
Rated 315 miles got actual 118 miles (63% range loss). 50% is still a good guesstimate for towing in any gas or electric vehicle.
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Rated 315 miles got actual 118 miles (63% range loss). 50% is still a good guesstimate for towing in any gas or electric vehicle.
First real-world Rivian R1T towing test shows huge range loss
The Rivian R1T has a towing capacity of 11,000 lbs. According to the company’s website, towing at that weight will reduce range “by about 50%.” In the first real-world R1T towing test, that number is […]
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What the heck happen where they wanted to review the footage from Rich when it took it for a drive off of their pre planned course?
There's something going on here and it screams Nikola. They have many years into this. Why are they still somewhat secretive on things?
There's something going on here and it screams Nikola. They have many years into this. Why are they still somewhat secretive on things?
Nikola doesn't have anything.
There are hundreds of R1Ts in the wild.
Doug DeMuro took one off-roading up a very difficult hill without any supervision. Dozens of auto journalist have test driven one. Motor Trend drove a couple across the United States. Hundreds of regular customers have test driven one.
Rivian is nothing like Nikola.
If there is a "Nikola" Semi that gets on the road it will be built by third party using third party technology.
Unlike Nikola, Rivian has an actual product. But you are correct, Rivian is being very close lipped and secretive, and that is worrying. They are behaving like they have something to hide, and actions like that do raise some concerns in my opinion.
Every automaker has something to hide.
Like prototypes and future plans.
Many times automakers will invite journalist to test vehicle A and they have vehicles B and C there. Testing and/or to look at but not drive or take pictures of. To get them excited about the future of the brand.
Like prototypes and future plans.
Many times automakers will invite journalist to test vehicle A and they have vehicles B and C there. Testing and/or to look at but not drive or take pictures of. To get them excited about the future of the brand.
ZachF
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Rivian is looking to produce 1 million vehicles annually by the end of the decade
Rivian may only be starting its initial production activities, but the company has already announced some of its ambitious goals for the end of the decade. As per CEO RJ Scaringe in an interview ahead of the company’s market debut on the Nasdaq, Rivian is planning to build at least one million...www.teslarati.com
FYI, if you backwards count 1m from 2030 with a 50% CAGR you get to 38k next year.
