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Seriously? You think there's going to be people that say "gee, I'd really love to get a Tesla/EV, but that damn pedestrian noisemaker... nah, I'll buy an ICE instead".
Ok, fine, we can't say that number is zero, sure. But if the pedestrian horn actually decelerates the "transition to renewable transport," the deceleration because of that is asymptotically approaching zero (but not zero).
More hyperbole, please.
I guess you can't completely fix stupid. We've had two people where I live get run over by the Amtrak train, A FRICKIN TRAIN, because they were so distracted with loud headphones and looking at their phones that they couldn't even hear or see a FRICKIN TRAIN!! You've got to notice your walking over train tracks, right?? When a train is coming the ground even shakes. How could you not notice that?? I think if I ran over someone in that condition and I wasn't legally at fault I wouldn't feel nearly as bad.A lot of people are citing blind people... but you should be citing people looking at their cell phones... might as well be blind. Combine that with headphones and they're asking for it.
It's all BS....ICE vehicles are also getting considerably quieter at idle speeds. No laws for them? Hmm.
We've had a cyclist ran over by a commuter train - he didn't figure out that the train gate down means train is approaching. Headset was on as wellI guess you can't completely fix stupid. We've had two people where I live get run over by the Amtrak train, A FRICKIN TRAIN, because they were so distracted with loud headphones and looking at their phones that they couldn't even hear or see a FRICKIN TRAIN!! You've got to notice your walking over train tracks, right?? When a train is coming the ground even shakes. How could you not notice that?? I think if I ran over someone in that condition and I wasn't legally at fault I wouldn't feel nearly as bad.
and another means of collecting revenue by regulating something for the heck of it.
Fixed.We've had a cyclist ran over by a commuter train - he didn't figure out that the train gate down means train is approaching. Headset was on as well
P.S. Not sure why you gave my earlier post a dislike - I was being sarcastic, in case the wink at the end of sentence didn't give it away.
just hope that Tesla gives some interesting options for the pedestrian sound once this becomes required by law for new vehicles.
when I've been offering it all along (as well as any custom sound you want).
If they cross at a stop sign/traffic light, we would stop to let them cross.
How many blind people do you all almost hit here?
I stand corrected, but the rules probably should apply to any vehicle making less than x dB of noise at low speed. Some ICE with quiet engines and low noise tires make less noise than my Model S at low speed.
How much of that caused by low speed vehicles? If slower than 10mph you still hit someone I believe the driver must be a moron.And yet pedestrian collisions still happen constantly. I'm sure everyone here is an extremely attentive, expert, highly trained driver, but the average driver on the average road on the average day is not paying attention. These regulations are conservatively estimated to prevent 2,000 additional collisions with pedestrians per year.
Notice how extremely quiet that electronic sound is. People talking are about as loud, but when it approaches you (in real life at least), it's extremely noticeable.
Disable a required feature like disconnecting the airbags? Seat belts?
This is exactly what I do in my parking garage at work... I turn up the music.And all cars have a standard sound generator. It's called the stereo
Living in the Denver area and having had to take those buses to work daily, I can tell you people ignore then and walk in front of them all the time. I never found the sounds pleasant but maybe that's because I didn't like working downtown.The Denver mall busses have similar devices on them, and they're very quiet. Almost pleasant. And a massive improvement over what an ICE bus sounds like.
Silent denver bus:
Denver bus with pedestrian warning noise:
Notice how extremely quiet that electronic sound is. People talking are about as loud, but when it approaches you (in real life at least), it's extremely noticeable.
If slower than 10mph you still hit someone I believe the driver must be a moron.
The sound is only noticeable to EV nerds who are paying attention to it. I mean I can detect a Prius from across the street without looking at it.
I can tell you people ignore then and walk in front of them all the time. I never found the sounds pleasant but maybe that's because I didn't like working downtown.
We can't fix people being idiots. But the point of these noise makers is to alert people not paying attention or not able to see the vehicle that it's coming right for them. If someone wants to play chicken with a bus, that's on them. But if someone can't hear my car creeping around the corner at a crosswalk, we should take simple measures to try to prevent that. The noise isn't supposed to be pleasant, though, it's supposed to stand out against the background.
Ah, let me clarify with a hypothetical scenario:What? What revenue?