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I took my first Waymo ride yesterday. Really impressive. It was an eleven mile ride on surface streets and the technology operated flawlessly. There was a screen in the back seat that displayed the speed, time to destination, and traffic conditions - stop light status, lane status, other vehicles. Again, really impressive.
There was a safety driver/monitor that did nothing.
Hard to compare. While I've paid for the FSD, I haven't received the chip upgrade necessary and my X just doesn't have the capability (at least that is available to me) of the the Waymo van.how does it compare to Tesla autopilot?
I took my first Waymo ride yesterday. Really impressive. It was an eleven mile ride on surface streets and the technology operated flawlessly. There was a screen in the back seat that displayed the speed, time to destination, and traffic conditions - stop light status, lane status, other vehicles. Again, really impressive.
There was a safety driver/monitor that did nothing.
We have a '19 RAV4 Hybrid with the new Toyota pieces --- (TSS2.0, I think). Sounds similar to PhantomX's description of the Honda system, in my experience. It does pretty well for long-distance, interstate-type driving. Limited to adaptive cruise control and 'lane-centering.' It does okay with those two tasks provided you're paying attention. The steering assist doesn't disengage when taking over for normal adjustments. It handles gradual curves pretty well, but not quick, sharper corners. I generally describe myself as less fatigued after a long trip vs. not using the system. I don't have any real experience with AutoPilot for a real comparison.Apparently Openpilot also doesn't disengage on steering input. Seems like a better system for when you don't want to drive less than a foot from a tractor trailer. I find it requires it a very steady hand to disengage Autosteer without jostling the car and then of course you have to reenable it.
Waymo has a "driver fatigue monitoring" system in their vehicles. I don't think they allow any "tuning out". In my opinion the point where it becomes enjoyable is when you're a passenger and not a safety driver.Did you take some time observing the "driver"? Was he really paying attention to the road at all times or did he seem to tune out at times?
There surely is some threshold where baby-sitting a well-operating system becomes enjoyable as opposed to tedious/annoying. Based on this one ride, did you think Waymo are past that point?
I did spend some of the ride watching the "driver". He seemed engaged most of the time I was watching him, but did spend a bit more time looking out the driver-side window than I think one might without the system.Did you take some time observing the "driver"? Was he really paying attention to the road at all times or did he seem to tune out at times?
There surely is some threshold where baby-sitting a well-operating system becomes enjoyable as opposed to tedious/annoying. Based on this one ride, did you think Waymo are past that point?
I did spend some of the ride watching the "driver". He seemed engaged most of the time I was watching him, but did spend a bit more time looking out the driver-side window than I think one might without the system.
It's difficult to say. Different people have different personalities and getting a read from the back seat can be difficult. The "driver" didn't seem interested in visiting with me at all. He wasn't rude by any stretch, but didn't really seem interested in furthering any attempts at conversation that I made. Much different than the vast majority of Lyft or Uber drivers I've encountered.
I did spend some of the ride watching the "driver". He seemed engaged most of the time I was watching him, but did spend a bit more time looking out the driver-side window than I think one might without the system.
It's difficult to say. Different people have different personalities and getting a read from the back seat can be difficult. The "driver" didn't seem interested in visiting with me at all. He wasn't rude by any stretch, but didn't really seem interested in furthering any attempts at conversation that I made. Much different than the vast majority of Lyft or Uber drivers I've encountered.
For the vast majority of buying an EV drive train takes precedence over an ADAS system.
My own personal preference is just for TACC, and I only care about have a very smooth TACC. When I do use AP I prefer using NoA in the low traffic areas where the car automatically changes lanes to pass, and gets back over.
With Audi/Porsche I'd probably be pretty happy, but it wouldn't go beyond that.
With the Tesla I have the opportunity to experience something much better, but at the same time it might never satisfy me.
I will say TACC under V11 is much better. So it's almost smooth enough to satisfy base requirements.
My pleasure. I'm looking forward to my next ride in a Waymo (might be a few weeks out) and will share any pertinent info/opinions that come from it.Thank you!
I'm quite interested in such aspects. It's clear-cut when either the human is driving or the machine is driving and the human is relieved of any duties. However, watching a system that is known to have a not-quite-acceptably-low probability of failure, knowing that the time to react will be very very short, can't be too much fun. I'm wondering how well these trained drivers/supervisors can overcome the natural human tendency to disconnect.
I've been looking at the new Audis for a while now. How sure are you that they actually have LIDAR? Was this a typo or could you please post a source?
How long does the Audi let you take your hands off the wheel before complaining?
Overview: What Does the Future Hold for Self-Driving Cars? | The Motley Fool
Steve Wozniak, Apple co-founder and a person who was once bullish on the future of self-driving cars, believes that self-driving car technology is very far away from being good enough to implement at scale. And you might be surprised to hear that Waymo CEO John Krafcik has stated that autonomous vehicles will never be able to drive in all conditions.