Wait a second, is this the situation where I sit down in first class on the airplane and someone sits next to me and says "hey, did you get that $100 flight deal, too?!"
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Well. Why do you need falcon doors? To get to the 3rd row.
My theory is that the 5 seater/coil will be a more economical option redesigned w standard doors and possible a regular windshield. Bets anyone?
I'm sorry if I called you snippy. I will say I have heard your analysis (really an opinion, like mine, as neither of us quote actually studies or market research) at least 6 or 7 times. I think you and I are firmly entrenched in our positions. You, in order to validate your decision to move from a 5 seat car to a 6/7, and me, to validate my decision to stick with a 5 seat. You don't believe Tesla sees a large market for an SUV in which all seats fold, I believe they realize they missed the boat not providing a seating configuration which is standard in the industry. Human nature, we will just have to wait and see.Not trying to be snippy Beth but my post was meant to convey my honest thoughts. I truly ask out loud "how many folks are left who won't take 'the deal' and what is TM gonna do with you hand full of people?"
I hope I'm wrong but think TM will try some tactic to appease you, which WILL NOT include building a 5 seater. Look at it economically. Why design, test, certify, build a few dozen (hundred possibly) vehicles if they can find other more profitable ways to deliver a more standard MX? Please don't shoot me, just either agree or disagree with my emotionless analysis
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My order for a 75 D 5 seat configuration with coils was confirmed on Dec 29, 2015. What is the best guess on VIN or delivery?
Thanks!
Mine is blue too! It's going to be a beauty!
They also removed the accessory tow hitch option. I have updated the Model X design studio thread.Smart Air Suspension now required for all Model X orders per Tesla's website.
Lol! It's still an "option", but it's impossible to deselect.Smart Air Suspension now required for all Model X orders per Tesla's website.
I just sent an email to my DS as well. I have a 6 seater coil. I am thinking this will be a free upgrade for us patient customers???
That's not cool. "Encouraging" people to upgrade was sad, but understandable. Now telling you "sorry, you can't have the car you committed to ordering months ago (and that we wouldn't let you out of without losing your deposit)" is kinda scummy. They should give you the SAS for free, or $1250 of credit towards other upgrades (without change fee, of course), or in the Tesla store.Got a response from DS, here are the optionst:
1) pay 1250 to upgrade to SAS
2) cancel with full refund of my deposit
3) put deposit towards MS coil suspension
I am pretty upset that I waited this long and now I am forced to upgrade it (at least its not the full price). I am going to see what they can do to make me happy. Will let you know the final result...
I agree. Tesla deciding against offering coil in the X is fine. But they did offer it, and they need to make good on their commitment to those customers that went that direction. The offer they're making isn't completely unreasonable as it does include a discount on SAS, but I think it makes more sense to just grant it to those customers gratis.That's not cool. "Encouraging" people to upgrade was sad, but understandable. Now telling you "sorry, you can't have the car you committed to ordering months ago (and that we wouldn't let you out of without losing your deposit)" is kinda scummy. They should give you the SAS for free, or $1250 of credit towards other upgrades (without change fee, of course), or in the Tesla store.
What is Legal for them to do and what is the right thing to do, seem to be very different choices.It's not the most customer-friendly move, but I'm sure Tesla legal has carefully vetted the order agreement for liability purposes. The sentence at the end "You acknowledge that this Order Payment and this Agreement are not made or entered into in anticipation of or pending any conditional sale contract." is what probably gets them out of making the exact car you designed, but I'm not an attorney, so don't take this as legal advice of any sort.
For what it's worth, I had air on my 2013 Model S and again on my X, and I love the convenience and feature of raising and lowering the car. It came in handy many times on my S with steep driveways and high parking curbs, and it's been oppositely useful on the X to lower the car to make it easier for my elderly passengers to get in and out. I never had any mechanical issues with it on my S, but I only had it for 3 years. I'm sure those who are considering keeping their vehicles for forever have genuine reasons to be concerned.
They did the "right" thing when they upgraded reservation holders from 70D to 75D at no price difference. Seems like that's about the same retail price difference to "eat". And it sure seems like there are fewer coil orders than there are/were 70D orders.What is Legal for them to do and what is the right thing to do, seem to be very different choices.
I have been waiting as I have a five seat ordered. If I had a six or seven seat with coils on order and missed out on having the car this summer as a result of Tesla's promises, I would be livid. Let's hope they don't do the same thing with the 5 seats or I will bust a gasket.