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AP 2.0 Retrofit sounds possible - or Am I crazy

Discussion in 'Model X' started by Pennstlong, Oct 19, 2016.

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  1. Pennstlong

    Pennstlong Member

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    In the Design Studio, Under Enhanced Autopilot description it says " The enhancement include going from one camera to four cameras for greater accuracy". So, since this is an option which you can add after delivery, does that mean they would add 3 more cameras or you would already have 4 cameras?

    Same goes with Full Self driving, it goes from 4 cameras to 8 cameras and can be added.

    Am I crazy or I am just reaching for a straw here?
     
  2. outie

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    Possible but it could also mean the other cameras are merely disabled if preinstalled.
     
  3. shokunin

    shokunin P85 & S40

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    All the hardware is already on new cars, to turn on enhanced or full self driving is just software.
     
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  4. Shumdit

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    There will not be retrofits for AP1.0 cars. If you have been following Tesla for long you know this from past history. It's a major undertaking to add parking sensors, folding mirrors, etc. this is a MUCH more complicated upgrade. Those who are speculating AP1.0 can be upgraded are wishful thinking I am afraid. It's been the case that owners of older cars felt this was possible when all wheel drive came out, AP1.0 came out, etc. and Tesla is not going to offer this as a retrofit.
     
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  5. Pennstlong

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    Just feel like my 3 week old Model x is already.. "Old"...
     
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    My initial reading thought that meant retrofit, but now I'm pretty sure that it is to unlock on cars that have the hardware and did not pay of it upfront
     
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    This.

    It will not be retrofitable. Not the Tesla way.

    Let me know if anyone trades in a 2 week old X. Color me curious.
     
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    I think $3000 was one thing, but $8000 is another....I don't think this is a simple software unlock. We'll see.
     
  9. Pennstlong

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    From the Autopilot page, right under "Full Self-Driving Capability"
    "This doubles the number of active cameras from four to eight, enabling full self-driving in almost all circumstances, blah blah blah"

    Disabled cameras...
     
  10. geoffreak

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    Elon mentioned during the call that retrofits aren't possible, sorry. Jump to [17:00]
     
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    i am upset ordered x for mid November delivery they called and asked me to take delivery 2 wks ago what can i do
     
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    Don't we know by now that retrofits is simply wishful thinking? That's been proven time and time again.

    Enjoy your vehicle. You got exactly what you ordered and paid for.
     
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  13. Pennstlong

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    For all seriousness, the regulatory approval process from NTSB and then each state's own transportation department would take a better part of 2017.
     
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    I think this would be inadvisable from a legal perspective. As soon as anyone got hurt or died from a retrofit accident they'd be does into oblivion.
     
  15. number12

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    Did you agree to earlier delivery or did they surprise you?

    You can always walk away from $2500 and reorder
     
  16. Pennstlong

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    just did some numbers for fun (and to make myself feel better).. I am on a 3 year lease. $4500 additional in cost = $125 per month $4 per day.
    Wait... I don't feel better.
     
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    The question is are the cars that came off the line in the last 60 days capable of having 2.0 or is it just the change in the line effective this month?
     
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    Drive an amazing vehicle or trade it in for an even amazinger vehicle.
     
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  19. Pennstlong

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    just looked at my front facing camera, it looks quite different than the one pictured here Autopilot It looks like a model s, but presumably hardware are the same
     
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    My understanding based on conversations with those in the "know" is that Autopilot+ IS retrofit-able for new cars within the last couple of months. Those cars have the harnesses necessary to retrofit, so the few additional sensors and the new camera can be added for parts+labor costs. NO car prior to today will be able to retrofit the Full Autopilot 2.0 suite so just for new cars as of today coming off the line.

    What isnt clear is what capabilities will be distinguished between AP+ and AP2.0? Also will AP+ also NOT be active until approved by regulators?
     
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