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Now for my serious reply. Well kinda serious... if no one else gives a higher offer than Tesla, is Tesla really lowballing?
Lol, yep, that's low balling. I took my previous vehicle to CarMax to sell; I didn't even bother with getting an offer from Tesla. My few replies up above we're working under the assumption of trading in a few month old Tesla to Tesla. I haven't read (not that there aren't any - I just don't have the time to search all of the forum) reports of how Tesla's offers on Teslas compare to other dealerships. When I sold to CarMax they did mention that they're finally allowed to keep and sell Teslas, instead of buying and sending to auction, but the impression is still that you won't get a very good price selling to CarMax either.when they offer me 20k for a 2 year old porsche with less than 30k miles .. then ya i'd call that lowballing ended up going to a ICE dealer to trade it in
My decision to lease is looking better and better. This is exactly the reason I chose to lease. Also, it's not all positive for the new owners as they will have much less AP functionality for the foreseeable future than we do. "Validating" the software and getting regulatory approval is a huge unknown.
when they offer me 20k for a 2 year old porsche with less than 30k miles .. then ya i'd call that lowballing ended up going to a ICE dealer to trade it in
My fear is that there is very little incentive for Tesla to keep the software up to date on our original Model Xs. Now that the hardware has changed, as has the processor running it, I would expect our days of meaningful software updates are numbered. The number of people with this original configuration is small (small enough to ignore), and there will never be more of us.
lso, it's not all positive for the new owners as they will have much less AP functionality for the foreseeable future than we do. "Validating" the software and getting regulatory approval is a huge unknown.
Please explain to me why Tesla needs to wait for "regulatory approval" to use the new hardware? All the legislation will do is remove the nags, and by extension, the driver, from the equation. But you can still have a full self-driving car -- it simply requires a driver in the seat until the legislation says otherwise.
In my opinion, it will only take a very short time for AP2.0 to catch up with AP1.0, maybe a couple of months, then it will surpass it by leaps and bounds, and that's not only in the foreseeable future, it's probably before the end of the year.
But only time will tell.
I'm not sure how it works in the US and Canada, but certainly in the EU and HK, ADAS systems do require regulatory approval, and that even includes adaptive cruise control and lane departure warning systems.
I don't quite appreciate the belittling attitude about what I need to understand when we are both speculating as outsiders.
But in general an automaker does not just get to put a new driver assistance system on the market with zero sign-off from regulatory bodies.
And in general every country wants to independently sign off on these systems except maybe the EU, but as we can already see, Germany as an example is not appreciative of the regulatory power of the signoff from the Netherlands.
Even the simplest sign-offs of this nature take months assuming no political body takes it as an opportunity to turn this into a media spectacle.
Also, it's not all positive for the new owners as they will have much less AP functionality for the foreseeable future than we do.
Months is certainly within the foreseeable future and it's the time frame I gave in the post you responded to me, seemingly taking issue with my position. So in the end it seems we both agree.