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App becoming required
- Thread starter tesrocks
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You might have a point here, if you werent driving around in a car that uploads pretty much everything about where you went in it, how you drove etc to the company in question, basically constantly.
Security is always a trade off, but complaining about the security aspect of this, is fairly strange to me when you made a decision to purchase a car that is already the most connected car in the world, with tons of data it already uploads about basically everything to the company that made it, in the name of "making driving better".
I did indeed. I did not choose to purchase a car that requires an app.
Sell it and move on then. Certainly you can find a car with a key that you don’t need to fear them Watching…
Or just buy a cheap tablet that you only use for the Tesla app. You turn it off when you don't need it. The other option, if Tesla doesn't block it, is to just install an Android emulator on your desktop. Then you only start the emulator when you need the Tesla app.
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The app isnt required to move to start or move the car, so you are still good to go there. Premium connectivity is not a required function either, so the car does not "require" the app for any critical to drive the car function.
smogne41
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If you can't put in a payment method, you can't Supercharge. Sounds kinda required to me, at least for how most people understand 'using a car'.
Supercharging isnt required to use the vehicle (my car has been supercharged exactly 3 times in 4 years) and I am not sure about the card entry for premium connectivity, but just checked (like right before entering this post) and you can still put in a credit card for supercharging on the web.
I think that was mentioned earlier in this thread, but if it wasnt, it absolutely, positively 100% is still possible to enter a credit card as payment in your tesla account on the web.
Operator64
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Seems you are confused…….the car does not require an app to operate or do what it does. problem Solved
I was sold a car with Premium Connectivity features without any need for the app. Now a year or two later I can't have Premium Connectivity without the app. So the app is required if I don't want a vehicle that is crippled compared to what I purchased.
The website will take your credit card for ordering accessories and for Supercharging but not for Premium Connectivity. If you don't believe me enter a different card on the website and see which one is charged for Premium Connectivity.
Not sure why you are making this out to be such a difficult problem. Your credit card expired that’s on you. It would take 5 minutes to have a friend or family member download app and update your card then delete app. Seriously not that much effort vs the time you have spent upset about it.
smogne41
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Glad you can still use the web for that. You and I have very different use cases, many months I will supercharge more times than you have in 4 years
No Supercharging would make the car essentially useless to me.
Operator64
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PACEMD
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I think you can also use your COVID chip for most of the functions of the app, assuming you were "immunized", that is. But understand they will know every move you make now.........I myself would wear a disguise.......
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Even if the car is technically usable without the app (and it is), it's really not meant for the type of people who are paranoid about smart phones. If you really don't want to use a smart phone in conjunction with the car, I'd recommend selling it.
Frankly the car itself has an LTE modem in it and constantly shares data with the mothership. Usually the same sort of concerns people against smart phones have.
Frankly the car itself has an LTE modem in it and constantly shares data with the mothership. Usually the same sort of concerns people against smart phones have.
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Let's be gentle. Avoiding mobile apps does improve security. Credit card expiration & theft is a fact of life.
Tesla's software team seems overloaded keeping any way to accomplish rare tasks (like updating credit cards) while they add features, support new vehicles, work around supply chain distributions, change the UI, handle safety issues, adapt to phone OS changes, and try to deliver a ~decade self-driving research goal last year (and add more games). They drop the ball at times on QA, bug fixing, usability, support for older models, and support for all drivers worldwide. It's unlikely that anyone decided to make the app required.
But they make the best cars and they continue to lead the crucial transition.
So we decide how to cope with Tesla's mistakes and how to report them on TMC in the hope of fixes.
Tesla's software team seems overloaded keeping any way to accomplish rare tasks (like updating credit cards) while they add features, support new vehicles, work around supply chain distributions, change the UI, handle safety issues, adapt to phone OS changes, and try to deliver a ~decade self-driving research goal last year (and add more games). They drop the ball at times on QA, bug fixing, usability, support for older models, and support for all drivers worldwide. It's unlikely that anyone decided to make the app required.
But they make the best cars and they continue to lead the crucial transition.
So we decide how to cope with Tesla's mistakes and how to report them on TMC in the hope of fixes.
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