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are there any level 2 home chargers that can charge faster than 48amps/12,000 watts?
Yes, there are plenty. Aside from the older Tesla connectors @jjrandorin mentioned, there are other brands like Clipper Creek that sell units that can supply more than 48A. They have ones you can have on a 100A circuit that can supply 80A. But the limitation is not in that outside unit. It's a limit in the car. That outside unit is really just a connector. It does some communication with the car and safety checks and then just closes a switch. It's the unit in the car that is the battery charger that takes that AC circuit connection and converts it to DC to charge the battery. And all of the current Teslas being sold only have onboard chargers that can handle at most 48A, so that's what you can get, regardless of what the external connector is capable of offering.are there any level 2 home chargers that can charge faster than 48amps/12,000 watts?
Pray tell what sort of use case scenario you're in that you think 48a won't be sufficient for your daily charging needs.are there any level 2 home chargers that can charge faster than 48amps/12,000 watts?
Time of use charging. I returned home with 14% yesterday and charging just to 50% at that rate puts me out of my super off peak window. My 2016 had duals and charged MUCH faster than my current 2022.Pray tell what sort of use case scenario you're in that you think 48a won't be sufficient for your daily charging needs.
FWIW, I'm guessing that the cost difference would never have paid for itself under that sole use case if you had been given the option to pay for a faster on-board charger during ordering (to be clear, there is no such option, I'm just saying I suspect that it would come at a significant cost if there were).Time of use charging. I returned home with 14% yesterday and charging just to 50% at that rate puts me out of my super off peak window. My 2016 had duals and charged MUCH faster than my current 2022.
Did some older Teslas have dual charging units? Yes. Does yours? I don't think so. The dual charger option could actually charge at 80A while the single charger could only charge at 40A. These were no longer available by 2017 (not sure when it went away, but they may even pre-date the first Model X [@Redmiata98 could potentially confirm whether the 2016 X mentioned charged at 72A or 80A if it ever charged on a 100A circuit]). You do have a charger upgrade option that used to be available (I have the same one), but that wasn't the name of the option and doesn't necessarily properly describe it. I've heard it described as a third module where each module does 24A, but I don't know if that is accurate, only that I've charged at 40A and 80A in different much older loaners while my 2017 option did not include the word "dual" and maxed out at 72A on the same circuit.As mentioned some older Teslas like my 2017 X had dual onboard charging circuits. So today I charge at 72A. My wife’s M3 tops out at 48A
ALL home charging is very extremely slow charging from the battery's perspective. It makes no difference at all to the battery's health. You are quibbling about the differences between 11 or 17 kW. That's irrelevant to the battery pack, which can take over 100 kW power levels. So treatment of the battery should not be a factor in why people decide on their charging setups at all.There is no doubt that slower charging is better for the long life of the battery but inconvenient if you have Time Of Use electric rates.
Well. Thinking you know it all and actually knowing it all are two different things. Yes my 2017 has the dual charge, it was an option still in 2017. Yes I can charge at 80 amps but things get pretty warm at 72 so I leave it there. Maybe research some, Google can help. Anyway just letting the OP know there were options but not so much anymore.Did some older Teslas have dual charging units? Yes. Does yours? I don't think so. The dual charger option could actually charge at 80A while the single charger could only charge at 40A. These were no longer available by 2017 (not sure when it went away, but they may even pre-date the first Model X [@Redmiata98 could potentially confirm whether the 2016 X mentioned charged at 72A or 80A if it ever charged on a 100A circuit]). You do have a charger upgrade option that used to be available (I have the same one), but that wasn't the name of the option and doesn't necessarily properly describe it. I've heard it described as a third module where each module does 24A, but I don't know if that is accurate, only that I've charged at 40A and 80A in different much older loaners while my 2017 option did not include the word "dual" and maxed out at 72A on the same circuit.
I don't think any of this is true at all (except for your personal statement of what charging level you choose to use). The Model X was already introduced with the 72A maximum new single piece chargers. The Model S still had the "single/dual" until they did the "facelift" refresh in the Spring of 2016, which was when the redid their chargers to match the single piece units that the X was using, so all of the facelift style Model S cars only have the 72A maximum, not 80A.Yes my 2017 has the dual charge, it was an option still in 2017. Yes I can charge at 80 amps but things get pretty warm at 72 so I leave it there.
I was following this stuff every single day in the forum from actual owners, which is more accurate than Google searching it.Maybe research some, Google can help.
They sure are. You should heed your own advice.Well. Thinking you know it all and actually knowing it all are two different things.
The 72 amp “high amperage charger” option available in 2017 is not a “dual charge”. It’s a single onboard unit composed of three internal 24 amp charging boards (vs. 2 in the standard 48 amp charger).Yes my 2017 has the dual charge, it was an option still in 2017.
No, you can’t.Yes I can charge at 80 amps
Again. OP asked if you can charge above 48amps. You can. 2017 MX had an optional charge circuit option which I have. Whether it is “dual” or triple charging boards is pointless. Answer - Yes some Teslas can charge above 48amps.They sure are. You should heed your own advice.
The 72 amp “high amperage charger” option available in 2017 is not a “dual charge”. It’s a single onboard unit composed of three internal 24 amp charging boards (vs. 2 in the standard 48 amp charger).
No, you can’t.
No, it doesn’t.My purchase paperwork list 80amp max charge current.