Are you OK with AutoPilot jail?

[No42]

Do you guys think it is acceptable not being able to engage the AP whenever it is safe to do so?

Requiring to park the car and open/close the door to re-engage it is plain stupid.

It is a safty issue as well. The driver might get into an accident because of not being able to turn it back on.

 

[Az_Rael]

I have never been put in AP jail in the 16k miles I have driven my car. It doesn't seem hard to avoid to me.

What is happening that you are getting AP disabled so much?

 

[SomeJoe7777]

Ya, I'm a bit perplexed on this one. 60K miles in my S and 12K miles in my 3, never been put in AP jail.

 

[arcus]

It is a safty issue as well. The driver might get into an accident because of not being able to turn it back on.

How so? Are you not able to drive the car without AP?

 

[WileyTheMan]

I think the "AP Jail" is a good thing and should not be removed. Some people need reminders that this is not autonomous driving.

 

[mhan00]

I don’t think I’ve even gotten a visual warning yet while on AP, let alone three audible warnings and AP jail.

 

[hurjio]

Remind me, what must happen for you to be put into AP jail?

 

[outdoors]

AP jail hopefully keeps Tesla out of the negative headlines. Not perfect, but we could be couple bad headlines away from potentially losing it all together.

 

[Nocturnal]

Voted yes, but I don't like the question. I want AP jail on other people's cars. People are stupid enough with autopilot, a cool down like this seems reasonable. If somebody is repeatedly leaving hands off the wheel for long periods then they should get locked out.

 

[Zythryn]

I have only been put in AP "Jail" once, and that is because I wanted to see what the system did.
If someone isn't paying enough attention to notice the numerous visual and audible alerts, I not only want them in "AP Jail", I want them to not be driving at all.

 

[SomeJoe7777]

Remind me, what must happen for you to be put into AP jail?

Two ways it can happen:

1. Fail to respond 3 times to "Apply light force to steering wheel" to the degree that audible beeps occur on each of the 3 occasions.

2. Exceed 90 MPH while autosteer is engaged.

Either of these results in "Autopilot disabled for the remainder of this drive", informally called "AP Jail". To reset, you must stop the car and place it in Park.

 

[Gavyne]

As annoying as they are, it's essential to keep the drivers attentive to the roads for sake of safety for everybody. Yes a jail is needed for now until the full autonomous driving is ready.

 

[MXWing]

My only problem with AP jail is my frantic squeezing, banging, shaking, and shoving of the wheel doesn't register and always kick off the nag.

Internal camera needs image recognition for my middle finger so I can tell it I am alert and aware.

 

[ngogas]

If you aren't responding to any of the AP alerts, jail time is a good way to teach the old dog a new trick to not ignore it.

 

[commasign]

I rest my hand at 10 o’clock or 2 o’clock positions on the steering wheel. Zero nags. Zero AP jail.

 

[BerTX]

I've only been in jail for 90+, when passing o a 2-lane road. I have considered setting max speed to 89 mph on long stretches of 2-lane road just to keep me from doing that, but I'd rather have the extra juice if needed and deal with the jail time, than deal with oncoming traffic.

 

[roxybalboaguy]

Do you guys think it is acceptable not being able to engage the AP whenever it is safe to do so?

Requiring to park the car and open/close the door to re-engage it is plain stupid.

It is a safty issue as well. The driver might get into an accident because of not being able to turn it back on.

I would like Tesla to have a 3 strikes policy. 3 times you get put in jail your car should lose access to EAP for ever and no refunds.

 

[daniel]

The point of AP jail is to tell a driver "Hey, Bozo, I told you to keep your hands on the wheel. You didn't do it. So now you can just drive the car yourself."

I am not calling you a bozo, No42. I'm saying that's what AP jail is saying to a driver who ignores the injunction to keep their hands on the wheel. EAP at present is a beta feature and a Level 2 feature. That means constant driver attention required. The Nag and AP jail are the only ways Tesla has to enforce this requirement. Tesla does not want you to die, and Tesla knows that its cars are not yet ready for the driver to take eyes off the road.

AP jail only means you have to drive the car yourself. You do not have to stop the car and put it in park and open the door. You just have to drive it yourself.

 

[Vines]

I have never heard an audible warning, because I don't allow myself to be that distracted from driving.

It wouldn't take much to give Tesla a very bad name, and I think the conservative approach Tesla takes is appropriate with a feature that has so much potential to go badly and kill themselves or others. People use all kinds of AP defeat tricks, with a "AP buddy", the orange trick ect. You cannot rely on people to act in the safest way, but you can rely on them to be selfish. Having some punishment is the only way to ensure those types of people use the feature responsibly.

 

[woodisgood]

There are Tesla owners out there who are simply irresponsible behind the wheel of AP. I see them all the time on the highway. From having a full-on dance party in the car (I don't just mean dancing behind the wheel, I mean up on the driver's seat facing backwards on one's knees) to playing a f-ing trumpet, I've seen plenty of instances of behavior that probably would get one in AP jail.

It's unfortunate that people have such unrealistic expectations of this technology.