spatterso911
P100DL - Raven
Haven't turned creep on. Haven't missed it--even on hills.
+1. Used it for about a month, then realized that I never really needed it.
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Haven't turned creep on. Haven't missed it--even on hills.
so I'm a bit confused, was creep mode on or off? The way I read the OP post was that it was *on*, but enough of a decline that it still rolled backwards instead of creeping forwards.
I have to feel sorry for Tesla. Some people wanted Creep so they were given that. Then when used incorrecly for a hill holder, which it is not, they get flack!
I don't believe hill-hold is part of creep. Sometimes it will hold in Creep Mode if the incline is not too great. It would be nice for Tesla to add hill-hold in a future update.
The only car I've experienced hill-hold in is a Mini Cooper with a standard transmission. It's a pretty nifty feature in a standard.
It does seem to me that "creep" means that, when engaged, the car will move forward at a slow predefined speed when the brake isn't applied. If it was implemented as a low predefined torque, that's not at all what I would expect and seems like an odd design decision.
Every automatic I've ever had will at least hill hold or move slowly forward on a slope. It's hard to imagine what the advantage of allowing the car to roll backwards might be. The car's motion is completely under software control, so it's not like there's a mechanical clutch involved.
As an FYI, there's a Tesla certified bodyshop in Wisconsin. The owner is a Model S owner and offers up Tesla charging to owners in the area for free. If you do frequent a body shop, may as well give another owner the business. Let me know if you need the contact info for the shop. He posts in the Midwest section of this site.
It's clearly an authentication flaw in the Creep feature.I have to feel sorry for Tesla. Some people wanted Creep so they were given that. Then when used incorrecly for a hill holder, which it is not, they get flack!
Every vehicle I've owned or driven this was not the case. Drive in downtown Seattle if you'd like to verify that your cars do no "at least hill hold" on slopes.Every automatic I've ever had will at least hill hold or move slowly forward on a slope.
The title of the thread included "Creep Failed me", which suggests otherwise. A more accurate title would be "I expected Creep to behave like Hill hold for some reason and it didn't".I am not giving Tesla Flack. If you noticed, I completely admitted responsibility.
+1. Used it for about a month, then realized that I never really needed it.
I don't believe hill-hold is part of creep. Sometimes it will hold in Creep Mode if the incline is not too great. It would be nice for Tesla to add hill-hold in a future update.
Same here. I initially had it on, but these forums convinced me to try it off, and I haven't looked back.
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That's been my experience with ICE vehicles too. Some amount of torque is delivered, but if the hill is steep enough the car WILL roll back.
Please keep in mind again, this was not a Hill, it was a driveway/parking lot with a 3% grade.
Yeah, I was responding to a later comment in the thread on creep "in general". It almost sounds in your case like Creep became disabled for some reason. When I had creep turned on in my Model S, it usually would hold on something like a 3% grade. I have had both ICE cars and Model S roll back on steeper grades unless some additional "throttle" is applied.
agree with Todd: every automatic I've had will creep forward on a flat or small slope, stay roughly in place on a medium (4%? grade), and will roll backward on a steep grade.Every automatic I've ever had will at least hill hold or move slowly forward on a slope.
Ah, thanks for clarification. Thats what I was expecting. Agreed, on a steeper grade some throttle is necessary or brakes firmly pressed.