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Audi Q6 e-tron EV
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More detailed info in Norwegian on this page. Summary, probaby euro spec:
Usable battery capacity 95kWh, gross estimated from journalist to 103 kWh
Heated and cooled pack, with heat pump capability
Promise of effective cooling for repeated full accelerations without throttling due to overheating.
Max DC charge speed 150 kW
Full DC charge speed to 80% SOC
Estimated WLTP range is at least 400 km, probably higher.
Optional dual side charge ports.
Launch model charges up to 11 kW from a 3 phase 16A 400V, but only 2,3 kW from any other 1 phase 230 V
Optional 1 phase 32A and 3 phase 32A 400v to be released in 2019, but not retrofittable.
Siste nytt om Audi e-tron
Usable battery capacity 95kWh, gross estimated from journalist to 103 kWh
Heated and cooled pack, with heat pump capability
Promise of effective cooling for repeated full accelerations without throttling due to overheating.
Max DC charge speed 150 kW
Full DC charge speed to 80% SOC
Estimated WLTP range is at least 400 km, probably higher.
Optional dual side charge ports.
Launch model charges up to 11 kW from a 3 phase 16A 400V, but only 2,3 kW from any other 1 phase 230 V
Optional 1 phase 32A and 3 phase 32A 400v to be released in 2019, but not retrofittable.
Siste nytt om Audi e-tron
US charger will definitely be different, but I wonder why it can only do 2.3 kW on one phase (not that anyone would really use it). Maybe they saved some bucks on the power factor corrector?
Well, in Europe you can't get more than 16A from one phase. Well, you can but not legally. If you want to go higher, you need all three phases.
But with three phases you can go with a smaller capacitor, since the ripple after the rectifier is much smaller with 3 phases. So I guess they just saved some bucks on that capacitor and if you use it at one phase it doesn't go as high.
It is a bit unclear what kind of onboard charger the car will get. I would guess one or three phase 16A, limited to 10A from a household outlet but able to get 1x16A (3,7 kW) or 3x16A (11 kW) from a wall box. But not my expertise, and since media reports are confusing, I guess Audi would like it that way.
That's (one reason) why EVs have different on board chargers in Europe and the US. That's why an US Model S can charge at 17.5 kW, but an European one only with 16.5 kW.
A big difference is also that in the EU, we have a three phase grid. For that to work all three phases need to be symmetrically. So high power consumption needs to be three phase.
According to this article (in German) it will be 11kW (3x16) with one charger and 22kW with an optional additional charger. Of course the usual 10-16A (240V) single phase household plug will also be usable. In one of the first comments to the article (on the same page), quite detailed comparisons are made. It appears that efficiency from battery to wheel could be a bit below a Model S and even more so below a Model 3, How the LG pouch-cells will survive in everyday use remains to be seen.
So how are these 432 cells, 36 modules and 12 cells in a module connected? It can't be 96S like Tesla or Leaf as 432 is not divisible by 96.
432 = 2^4 x 3^3
72S6P 302V pack?? 496A @150kW (unlikely)
108S4P 453V pack?? 331A @150kW (almost the same as Supercharger)
432 = 2^4 x 3^3
72S6P 302V pack?? 496A @150kW (unlikely)
108S4P 453V pack?? 331A @150kW (almost the same as Supercharger)
Valore
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Just saw an Audi E-Tron in the streets of soutern Germany.
Looked pretty good and close to production.
Looked pretty good and close to production.
tescroft
In Musk, we trust.
People criticizing Tesla complained about price, weight and time to production readyness.
From what I see here, Audi, of one of the oldest car manufacturer in the world, can neither do it cheaper, nor lighter, nor more on time.
Model X: Prototype shown 2012, production deliveries 2015 (3 years later)
Audi Q6: Prototype shown 2015, production deliveries 2019 (4 years later)
From what I see here, Audi, of one of the oldest car manufacturer in the world, can neither do it cheaper, nor lighter, nor more on time.
Model X: Prototype shown 2012, production deliveries 2015 (3 years later)
Audi Q6: Prototype shown 2015, production deliveries 2019 (4 years later)
gjunky
Trifecta: Solar and both cars are EVs
tescroft
In Musk, we trust.
@Spidy: Audi promised 2018 availability, now it is postponed to 2019 with very limited quantity, if the 5000-number of gjunky is correct, Audi will be making less of these in a year than Tesla produces Model X in two months.
Anyway, what matters more than promises are the results. And these speak for Tesla.
Anyway, what matters more than promises are the results. And these speak for Tesla.
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Valore
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Where you get the 5000 from?
Porsche is planning more than 20000 Mission-E per year. I guess Audi is planning a lot more E-Tron.
Porsche mulls production increase for Mission E
I fid it humorous that Tesla fans (of all people) constantly bag on Audi for late schedules and missed production volume predictions...
Audi / VW needs to get serious about EVs then they might earn some respect.
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