Audi R8 e-tron

[yobigd20]

Audi announces 2 new all electric vehciles, 200-300 mile range

Today at the LA Auto show Audi confirmed two all-electric vehicles in development. First one will be shown at the Detroit Auto Show this January. This is an all-electric R8, with a range of 200 miles. Followed by a larger family car in 2017 with 300 miles of range.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2698445-audi-confirms-300-mile-range-ev-plans-to-compete-with-tesla

The all-electric Audi is coming - BBC Top Gear

 

[Mr X]

 

[30seconds]

The e-tron is coming! The e-tron is coming!

Well, kind-of anyways. The last one was cancelled so they managed to get to 400km range in the old body style. Which I'm sure will actually make it to the market. Or not.

Audi R8 : 400km-plus range and March debut for electric-only new model

 

[Adm]

More news on the R8 E-Tron

- 92 kWh battery
- 450 km / 280 mi range
- CCS fast charging to "fully charge the battery in significantly less than two hours. "

The price of the current R8 is already significantly higher than a loaded P85D

I am not (yet) impressed.

http://www.autogespot.com/audi-presents-the-new-r8

 

[yobigd20]

More news on the R8 E-Tron

- 92 kWh battery
- 450 km / 280 mi range
- CCS fast charging to "fully charge the battery in significantly less than two hours. "

The price of the current R8 is already significantly higher than a loaded P85D

I am not (yet) impressed.

http://www.autogespot.com/audi-presents-the-new-r8

I am Impressed that someone else finally decided to put more than 7kW of batteries in their car and actually make a real attempt at a longer range EV.

 

[AnOutsider]

I am Impressed that someone else finally decided to put more than 7kW of batteries in their car and actually make a real attempt at a longer range EV.

Agreed. Bodes well for their "X competitor"

 

[ecarfan]

That article does not state when the R8 E-Tron will be offered for sale, or what the price will be. Given the price of the V10 version it will likely be over US$200K.

At likely twice the price of a P85D it is not a Tesla competitor and very few will be made. AUDI has a long way to go to catch up to Tesla.

 

[EarlyAdopter]

It will be interesting to see how Audi manages to stuff that many batteries into an R8.

 

[AnOutsider]

That article does not state when the R8 E-Tron will be offered for sale, or what the price will be. Given the price of the V10 version it will likely be over US$200K.

At likely twice the price of a P85D it is not a Tesla competitor and very few will be made. AUDI has a long way to go to catch up to Tesla.

Audi is sort of in a difficult position. A Model S costs as much, if not more, than a comparable Audi because of the batteries. Meanwhile Audi puts (some of) that money into interior quality. Some may disagree, but I feel Tesla has a ways to go to equal the quality of an Audi interior.

Back to Audi, they MIGHT be able to get cheaper if they decontent the interior (and some bells and whistles) and put that money towards the battery, but then it wouldn't be an Audi (in many circles).

That said, I fully agree. Went to an Audi event recently and saw the near $200K R8 and shook my head. Not much faster than a P85D, yet costs way more and is far less useful in daily use. My r8 hasn't left the garage since last summer.

 

[dsm363]

The R8 is a cool looking car though. If they make this then it will sell but in number probably below that of the Tesla Roadster. Guess they have to start somewhere but agree Audi is in a weird position and doesn't know how to market this.

 

[RobStark]

Meanwhile Audi puts (some of) that money into interior quality. Some may disagree, but I feel Tesla has a ways to go to equal the quality of an Audi interior.

Back to Audi, they MIGHT be able to get cheaper if they decontent the interior (and some bells and whistles) and put that money towards the battery, but then it wouldn't be an Audi (in many circles).

That is true for mass produced Audi models vs equivalent priced models from other OEMs.

And inferior drivetrains. FWD or FWD biased Quattro.

Even with no Tesla Motors rather have a BMW.

Even if interior is not as pretty as Audi.

 

[miimura]

Interestingly, Audi chose a dual-motor system for the R8 e-Tron. However, they put both motors on the rear axle to provide side-to-side torque vectoring instead of AWD like the P85D.

 

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My prediction is that Telsa has already built more Model X protottypes and testing units than Audi will ever, ever build of this eTron.

 

[wallet.dat]

Interestingly, Audi chose a dual-motor system for the R8 e-Tron. However, they put both motors on the rear axle to provide side-to-side torque vectoring instead of AWD like the P85D.

Makes sense, considering the benefits of SSTV and what the car is designed for.

 

[SwedishAdvocate]

I wonder why the R8 e-tron isn't able to use Tesla's superchargers. As I understand it, the battery is large enough.

 

[Johan]

I wonder why the R8 e-tron isn't able to use Tesla's superchargers. As I understand it, the battery is large enough.

I'm sure technically it could. So could a LEAF or an e-Golf (albeit at slower max rate and with tapering after a short while). It's not about if the car can/could use it technically but think of Tesla's SC network as one of the main components of their successful business. Everybody keeps talking about sharing it. Why should they? The Tesla owners have paid for the network and the exclusiveness is one of the attractions of the brand. If they would share it with anyone I'd think there would be a public announcement first of some kind of joint venture.

 

[30seconds]

Going to be really embarrassing when a Model X performance smokes it, goes farther and carries more on a smaller battery pack. And costs less too.

"Meanwhile, those who want more green power can opt for the e-tron version, whose 92-kWh battery pack gives the all-electric model a range 280 miles per charge, double that of the previous e-tron’s 140 miles. Speed will be limited to between 130.5 mph and 153.3 mph, and pricing is not yet known"

Geneva 2015: 2017 Audi R8 Debuts - The Truth About Cars

 

[brianman]

- CCS fast charging to "fully charge the battery in significantly less than two hours. "

Can someone translate this for me? Does it mean < 15 decimal places (1.999999999999998 hours), or something else?

 

[ecarfan]

It is vague, and is likely an attempt by AUDI to impress but for all we know "significantly less than two hours" could mean one hour and fifty minutes.

 

[brianman]

Speed will be limited to between 130.5 mph and 153.3 mph

Pretty jolting to blink to 130.5mph as soon as you put it in gear. Lotta speeding tickets that way too.