@stopcrazypp
Instead of rehashing the past. If you want to have an objective focused discussion/tracking (seeing we are in the 'Autonomous Car Progress' thread).
We can evaluate who is the leader in autonomous driving and actually quantify it especially as ADAS that blur the line with L4 feature capabilities are on their way.
Currently as you know Tesla fans will say that Tesla ALREADY won autonomous driving. That its game over. That they are 5-10 years ahead and there are no competition. However when you ask for quantification. For a laid out logic and deductive reason that can be applied to all companies universally. You hear crickets followed by "Tesla has billions of miles of data" and that's it.
No evidence, no proof. Nothing factual. Nothing tangible. No actual comparison using deductive reasoning.
- Not only that, but their argument change constantly, first it was that Tesla is building a HD map moat, however when Elon came out against HD map it became, HD map is a useless crutch.
- Another argument was that Tesla created Radar that was better than Lidar, then when Elon came out against radar it became that radar is a useless crutch.
- Finally I will mention the argument initially in AP2.0 days was that a car with 10 Tops with no deep learning accelerator while using 100 Watts is all you need. Anything more is Nvidia trying to sell you chips in their own interest. Tesla is the only one with a 10 Tops / 100 watts board in a car and cameras which you need to collect data so Tesla has immense lead. However after Tesla announced HW3, it became you need a FSD computer with atleast 144 TOPs to do autonomous driving or collect data and anything less than that is worthless.
The thesis was that Tesla with acouple thousand cars with 10 Tops / 100 watts computer with no DLA and cameras/radar was years ahead of everyone.
So why isn't Xpeng or several other companies with 30 Tops /30 watts computer, 360 camera, 360 radar also years ahead of everyone?
All the argument revolved around whatever Tesla was doing/says and any company who does the same thing or better doesn't matter because they don't have the Tesla logo.
The only option is to come up with a logic of full proof logic/criteria from deductive reasoning that is white-labeled and doesn't change based on what new direction a company is going or their latest statement.
This logic/criteria will be able to determine what being in the lead looks like and how many years in the lead.
Logic will be based on quantifiable evidence not "data data data".
Logic must be based on current production features/capability and not future updates.
We can create a spreadsheet.
For example:
- Miles per safety disengagement in urban environment.
- Miles per safety disengagement in suburban environment.
- Total safety disengagement per mile.
- Total intervention per mile.
- Complexity of maneuvers the system can do.
- Complexity of driving environment and traffic the system can handle.
- Numbers of scenarios covered (ex: stopping for emergency vehicle, emergency personnel or when a peds waves to go or stop, parking, garage, yielding, reverse, u-turn, 3-point turn, etc)
- Simple constructions
- Complex constructions and detours.
- ODD limits
- Geofences
- Driverless ability (Fully autonomous) / L4