Bold statement. I'd be surprised if Tesla is 5+ years ahead of everyone else. I'm sure Waymo or other driverless companies are going to be in a dozen cities before Tesla has a useful uber like feature. Although that doesn't disagree with your statement about being nation wide. It will be 5 or more years before Tesla reaches uber like FSD. I do think they are ahead, but 5+ years seems too much. Maybe 2+ years.
What i have discovered is some Tesla fans are incapable of using logic and utilizing reasoning when discussing anything Tesla related and are like conspiracy theorists and flat earthers.
When someone says that Tesla FSD is supposedly 5+ years ahead. It showcases that.
You would have to ignore reality like flat earthers. This is why most tesla fans ignore mobileye's supervision, Huawei autopilot or even the recent GM ultra cruise. If Tesla FSD is supposedly 5+ years ahead, then this is the easiest thing to prove factually beyond any reasonable doubt as 5 years is such a huge gap and easily demonstrable.
Let's take GM UltraCruise for example that works practically *everywhere in the US. Ultra Cruise is set to launch starting on GM's EV Lyriq and others GM cars starting in 2023. If Ultra Cruise were to launch on October 20th 2023, Exactly 3 years after FSD Beta initial release to ~80 (mostly) Tesla super fans. Ultra cruise would have to be significantly worst than even the first FSD Beta software to be 5 years behind.
And if you remember how bad the first FSD Beta software was, it couldn't even make basic left/right turns consistently and struggled with basic lane keeping and couldn't handle simple things like yield signs. It was just horrific. I could keep going. People should watch videos of the initial software release to remember how bad it was.
UltraCruise has to be SIGNIFICANTLY and orders of magnitude WORSE than that to be 5+ years behind.
Its simply illogical, makes no sense. But actually it does because most Tesla fans DO NOT use their brain when talking anything tesla related.
Now that's just UltraCruise. Then there is Huawei Autopilot that is releasing in December 2021. Again it would have to be thousands of times worse than the initial FSD beta from Oct 20th 2020 for it to be 5+ years behind. Especially with them operating in an environment that is orders of magnitude harder to drive in than the US.
Then finally you have supervision from Mobileye that works anywhere on the planet that has REM Map. All of US, Canada, Europe, Japan, China, etc.
Supervision launches with an OTA update in 2022 and works all over china. Again just like Huawei, Super Vision has to be thousands of times worse than the initial FSD beta to be 5+ years behind.
It literally makes ZERO sense.
And with GM Ultracruise we can actually test routes and compare them with videos of the initial FSD Beta when Ultracruise launches to see how many years Ultracruise is behind and whether they are behind at all.
But that requires logic and reason and we can't have that.
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