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Autonomous Car Progress
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diplomat33
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Doggydogworld
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Doesn't sound right. US driverless is a bit over 10m miles -- Cruise hit 5m in September and Waymo should have been pretty close behind.
OK, maybe 44m includes all miles. But 34m miles with safety drivers is too low. Waymo announced 20m at the start of 2020, almost all with drivers. It took them a little over a year to go from 10m to 20m, at that pace they'd be 50m+ by now. I doubt Cruise has that many, but has to be at least 10m. Then you have all the others. Many only have a car or three each, but Zoox must have a small fleet. 100 test cars driving 1k miles/week each is 5m miles per year.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
The 44M includes all autonomous miles, with and without a safety driver.
Reading their recent tweets, feels like they are trying to distract off of Cruise and push the "AVs are safe" line (not that I disagree, now that Cruise is off the road).
Would like to see the number without safety drivers in place.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Autonomous Vehicle Industry Association is a pro-AV lobby. So yes, they push a pro-AV agenda.
Same here.
Doggydogworld
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Way too low, then. My guess is they used 20m for Waymo. That's still their official number even though it's almost 4 years old.
I haven't been here alot recently but are people still claiming that Waymo's impressive maneuvers are remote controlled/operated?
@powertoold @EVNow
I know multi point turn were brought up previously...
@powertoold @EVNow
I know multi point turn were brought up previously...
EVNow
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Not by me. So you have find the people who brought it up and tag them. Not me !
I’m very concerned that I’m about 90 days away from losing a bet with my dear old friend made back in late Jan 2019… that by same time in 2024 - FIVE YEARS LATER that I’d be able to drive from Palo Alto to SFO, drop myself and my bags off and SEND THE CAR HOME…
Me thinks you‘re right.
I’m going to have to go to the bank and get an EXTRA CRISP GW to hand over.
I kind of like the Waymo design. It's still traditional car design compared to the Zoox and Origin.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
I kind of like the Waymo design. It's still traditional car design compared to the Zoox and Origin.
Yeah, Cruise and Zoox tried to go more futuristic, perhaps too much. Waymo vehicle looks modern but still utilitarian. I like it, although I don't care for the blue personally. The blue looks too bright and fun. But maybe that is the point. The sensors also look a bit more minimalistic than the current I-Pace. I wonder if they are the same sensors in a slimmer package or whether Waymo has developed a "6th Gen" suite?
Depends on the limits of each node. Each node would need to be able to, with reasonable safety, bring the vehicle to a safe stop within its domain of operation.
Yep, the definition only requires each node to be able to independently bring the car to a minimal risk condition to meet redundancy requirements, it does not require both to be exact mirrors of each other.
I am a fan of the Zook for a robotaxi. Completely functional, there is no forward or reverse, don't back out or back into anything. Designed to be cleaned. Legroom is good, etc. The bench row in the waymo and bucket seats are just throwbacks. Not functional. But obviously preferences probably dont mean much. First one I can ride, in DC area, I will. It really doesn't matter.
It's a timeless layout, used in horse drawn carriages, Victorian rail carriages and others. Maybe they can do a palaquin variant as well (single seater).
Definition of redundant hardware for L3+ cars under SAE J3016. All the redundant hardware is tasked to do is enable the car to reach a safe state, it is not tasked with being an exact mirror such that the car can operate fully as if nothing happened if one node fails, as people keep suggesting is required.
You can see a similar idea discussed for Mercedes' L3 system:
Mercedes rolls out Level 3 autonomous driving tech in Germany - The Robot Report
Mercedes-Benz' Drive Pilot is able guide the vehicle within its lane, while also taking into account events occuring on the route.
www.therobotreport.com
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