Actually, the sample is statistically large enough... but it is probably slightly biased?!
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Actually, the sample is statistically large enough... but it is probably slightly biased?!
jkirkwood001
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Please use the "add a record" link I shared, @ceekz. We changed the form Sept. 4. Once you use the new form, you will be prompted to edit your existing data every time you return. If you haven't yet, create a new record using the same username, and I'll delete the older record. Make sense? Hope this helps!
jkirkwood001
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Glad you finally got your VIN!
Haha. I remember someone being shocked that a website had posted her phone number on the Internet. "Invasion of privacy!!" she screamed. I said, "you know that public listing phone books have been around for decades, right? This isn't new. Just more convenient."
No, sorry, wasn't clear.
What's weird is I was I think the first to report getting a "scheduler" email. I immediately confirmed with them for delivery this coming Monday.
Since then, I have had no contacts until yesterday when the scheduler emailed me again and just said "In your account it says you are paying with cash, is that still true?"
I confirmed I intended to pay with a cashier's check. Asked if I needed to do anything else as I hadn't seen or heard anything else. My edit link was still there, and my trade in was still yellow (my part is done).
Suddenly last night, the edit link disappeared and about ten minutes later a VIN appeared.
As I wrote this, I just got a form email noting that not all my delivery details were green and I needed to do that to ensure there wasn't a delivery delay. The only one that isn't is trade in, which is waiting on them...
Glad to see your post and we'll look for you.
BTW they pull batches of VINs in advance for different production runs I believe so what will be more interesting is to compare VINs to date of production.
I will say that with our Model S delivery estimate last year it was right on and delivered in March. We either had March or April given as the earliest timeframe. Our Model 3 delivery will happen in Sept., jumped to order as soon as it was available to us, and estimate was Sept-Nov. so had felt we would be the beginning of the timeframe.
My AWD blue M3 no EAP Los Angeles delivery is coming up in 2 weeks, could have received mine next week.
Both my brother and I configured same day in July 2018, same config.
The only difference is my brother lives in Chicago area, and his color is Red.
My brother has not even received "Scheduling Your Tesla Delivery Date" mail, and it takes 1 month after that. He is paying cash.
What is it taking so long for my brother to delivery date? He has already sold his decent daily driver and is clunking around in a car with 250k+ miles.
Is it red color, or the location (Chicago) that's slowing down his delivery date?
Do people with Red color take longer to receive M3 AWDs than any other color? I have read that red color has quality issues...
Both my brother and I configured same day in July 2018, same config.
The only difference is my brother lives in Chicago area, and his color is Red.
My brother has not even received "Scheduling Your Tesla Delivery Date" mail, and it takes 1 month after that. He is paying cash.
What is it taking so long for my brother to delivery date? He has already sold his decent daily driver and is clunking around in a car with 250k+ miles.
Is it red color, or the location (Chicago) that's slowing down his delivery date?
Do people with Red color take longer to receive M3 AWDs than any other color? I have read that red color has quality issues...
voip-ninja
Give me some sugar baby
Nobody here would know what the reasons for the delay are. There are others here who reserved earlier than you or your brother who are also still waiting.
More than likely it is a combination of things holding up the delivery, you've identified some of them, which could include transportation bottlenecks, fixing things for red paint in the Tesla paint shop, or perhaps a lot of buyers of the same configuration in a particular market causing longer wait times than normal.
For what it's worth, there are other anecdotal threads were people are insisting Tesla has problem of too much production right now with people saying they got offered delivery within a week or two after making a deposit with no reservation.
Bias isn't the problem, it's a single cohort yes, but bias towards what? It's a single cohort. What it is, is a largely opt-out sample. Data is incomplete. Somebody, all excited sees a data entry form and enters he reserved a car. By the time he gets the car he moved on from announcing his "last bowel movement" so the significance of what he entered lacks because data lacks. The pool of reservations was manipulated by artificially not being delivered. Some people added reservation, order, scheduled delivery, delivery others added subsets of that. All the while Tesla changed their business model so conclusions drawn from my delivery are inconsistent with any conclusion drawn from someone getting a delivery in March. In terms of statistics they are in different samples, T-test. There are just so many flaws in the data you'd have to do real statistical analysis. ANOVA, error analysis, standard deviation of the sample etc before you could claim any statistically significant conclusions.
Then there are at least three spreadsheets that I know of, CJ's, Troy's, and the one jkirkwood is using. Do people in CJs, for instance, even know or care about the other two? One of the things CJ told me was participation was deemed to be about 9% when the early reservations were entered. It's 2% or less now. Again, those initial reservations were filled under a different model with an incomplete assembly line. The ramp wasn't even finished until into July so there is a variable time to market. Effectively the spreadsheets contain multiple intermixed sample groups.
That makes sense. I frankly could wait to take my M3 AWD delivery longer - have 2015 Spark EV that I really enjoy and I am keeping it...
My brother will happen to be in town when I take delivery - so at least he will experience the M3 awd for a short time before he goes back to waiting. I have seen four M3's at my work in the same parking lot. My brother just saw his first M3 in Springfield, IL a few days back. It appears that either it takes longer for M3s to trickle down to Midwest, or there is less demand there.
TechSavvyWife
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More movement on the delivery front. I got my final price sheet with VIN delivered via email today. Asked to sign digitally and submitted back via the PDFs emended functionality (not the Tesla website). So does this mean I'm good to go for the scheduled delivery on the 29th or might it still change?
Order of events so far:
9/17 - Contact from DA to finalize info via phone. Schedule delivery. (I asked for a couple days to get loan straight.)
9/19 - Contact from DA again via phone. Sent copy of insurance and confirmed instutition of loan pre-approval.
9/21 - MVPA w/ VIN and final price sheet arrived via email (signed and sent back). Payment options on website opened up and I paid the final down payment.
VIN and MVPA w/ VIN still not showing on website yet.....but I did just get it via email like 20 minutes ago.
Order of events so far:
9/17 - Contact from DA to finalize info via phone. Schedule delivery. (I asked for a couple days to get loan straight.)
9/19 - Contact from DA again via phone. Sent copy of insurance and confirmed instutition of loan pre-approval.
9/21 - MVPA w/ VIN and final price sheet arrived via email (signed and sent back). Payment options on website opened up and I paid the final down payment.
VIN and MVPA w/ VIN still not showing on website yet.....but I did just get it via email like 20 minutes ago.
I got a call from my IDA in Las Vegas with a delivery date of Oct. 1st in Decatur, GA. A week after I got a call from a Customer Support Specialist in Fremont telling me they will give me a $200 store credit if I take delivery, before the 1st, on Sept. 28th. I accepted. She didn't tell me that the location was changed to Alpharetta-Roswell, GA. I didn't care though since I want the car so bad. I tried calling/emailing my IDA for several days without a response to discuss the possibility of adding FSD before delivery. Finally I called 1 (888) 518-3752 to see if I could get any answers and they informed me that the VIN given to me is not assigned to me and they don't know what happened but that they can add FSD without any delivery delay since it is only a software change and won't be a change to the physical car and that it would cost $3,000 to add. I received an email from him to confirm. He put a rush on having my IDA call me back. The IDA finally called back and said that they were having a massive problem with VINs and they are trying to work out a solution and that he would get back to me before end of day but that it appears that when they changed my location to Alpharetta-Roswell, GA it messed up the computer and caused my VIN to be released. He also said that 1 (888) 518-3752 was incorrect and that I can't add FSD without releasing the VIN (which I no longer had anyways) and delaying delivery 8 weeks. I have a very strong feeling that I won't be getting my car this year especially since the obsidian black metallic is no longer being produced in large quantities. I was also told that I will only get a local delivery specialist if there is a problem before delivery otherwise one will not be contacting me. This contradicts what I had been previously told. There is so much contradicting information and problems with delivery! Super frustrating!
I would not leave to pick up your car until the service center it was delivered to has had it for a couple of days to fix anything needing fixing, wash, wax, prep etc. Let them, not west coast tell you when it's ready for delivery. I think some of the heart burn we've all seen on here is people showing up prematurely.More movement on the delivery front. I got my final price sheet with VIN delivered via email today. Asked to sign digitally and submitted back via the PDFs emended functionality (not the Tesla website). So does this mean I'm good to go for the scheduled delivery on the 29th or might it still change?
Order of events so far:
9/17 - Contact from DA to finalize info via phone. Schedule delivery. (I asked for a couple days to get loan straight.)
9/19 - Contact from DA again via phone. Sent copy of insurance and confirmed instutition of loan pre-approval.
9/21 - MVPA w/ VIN and final price sheet arrived via email (signed and sent back). Payment options on website opened up and I paid the final down payment.
VIN and MVPA w/ VIN still not showing on website yet.....but I did just get it via email like 20 minutes ago.
Swampgator
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I signed my final MVPA last week. Original delivery date was today. Moved to 9/28, and likely to not get the car until after Oct 10 per my Tampa delivery center. Call you local delivery center and ask them to check their delivery estimator. It seems to be the most accurate. Emails and calls to the IDAs do not give nearly as much information, at least in my experience.More movement on the delivery front. I got my final price sheet with VIN delivered via email today. Asked to sign digitally and submitted back via the PDFs emended functionality (not the Tesla website). So does this mean I'm good to go for the scheduled delivery on the 29th or might it still change?
Order of events so far:
9/17 - Contact from DA to finalize info via phone. Schedule delivery. (I asked for a couple days to get loan straight.)
9/19 - Contact from DA again via phone. Sent copy of insurance and confirmed instutition of loan pre-approval.
9/21 - MVPA w/ VIN and final price sheet arrived via email (signed and sent back). Payment options on website opened up and I paid the final down payment.
VIN and MVPA w/ VIN still not showing on website yet.....but I did just get it via email like 20 minutes ago.
asianxtreme
Member
Annnnnnnnnnnd.... An email stating delivery was delayed!
The email is a little weird, making it sound like it will get there before the 30th but only giving me the 30th to pick it up, which before i was told they weren't open on Sundays. Unfortunately, that Sunday isn't great for me, so I inquired if I could get a different day. Haven't yet heard.
I get the end of the quarter push, but ending up so last minute is going to make it tough for them.
Do you have to e-sign the MVPA before delivery, or can you sign it physically after you've inspected the car?
And also, I wonder whether a signature on an MVPA allows them to count it as a delivery for Q3 reporting purposes, even if you haven't physically taken possession of the car. It would be awfully sleazy, but could explain this otherwise inexplicable/impossible surge in delivery volume in the final week.
And also, I wonder whether a signature on an MVPA allows them to count it as a delivery for Q3 reporting purposes, even if you haven't physically taken possession of the car. It would be awfully sleazy, but could explain this otherwise inexplicable/impossible surge in delivery volume in the final week.
Swampgator
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No elon has been very clear on this. Car must be delivered to the customer and all paperwork completed.
So my backdoor edit link stopped working for about 30 minutes. And then it started working again.
voip-ninja
Give me some sugar baby
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