Blind Spot Monitoring

[SteveD]

It appears that blind spot monitoring is only available to cars that have Full Self-Driving. This is most disturbing to me having paid a lot of money to get enhanced autopilot only to find that blind spot monitoring isn't available. I have a three year old Kia that has blind spot monitoring with both audible and visual cues. Here I am buying one of the the most technologically advanced cars in the world and no blind spot monitoring unless I want to fork over another $3-$5k???? And this is supposed to be a car for the average person, already over $60K as configured. I think this is ridiculous and outrageous.

 

[Nocturnal]

I'm disappointed also. Blind spot monitoring is a critical safety feature. I get what they are doing by providing an actual feature in FSD to help it sell, but I think that's the wrong approach.

I've taken to using the rear camera as an alternative to BSM.

 

[brianteiger]

I have FSD on my X and BSM doesn't seem to be working, I'm wondering if its tied with the Drive on Nav?

 

[d21mike]

It appears that blind spot monitoring is only available to cars that have Full Self-Driving. This is most disturbing to me having paid a lot of money to get enhanced autopilot only to find that blind spot monitoring isn't available. I have a three year old Kia that has blind spot monitoring with both audible and visual cues. Here I am buying one of the the most technologically advanced cars in the world and no blind spot monitoring unless I want to fork over another $3-$5k???? And this is supposed to be a car for the average person, already over $60K as configured. I think this is ridiculous and outrageous.

Are you sure? Where did you hear that? If you read it on release notes then you misunderstood. It means only cars that have all 8 cameras which all cars except AP1. The wording is a poor choice. I think it said Full Self Driving "hardware" which is all cars after AP1.

 

[Need]

Are you sure? Where did you hear that? If you read it on release notes then you misunderstood. It means only cars that have all 8 cameras which all cars except AP1. The wording is a poor choice. I think it said Full Self Driving "hardware" which is all cars after AP1.

Yup. And ALL model 3 got FSD hardware.

 

[Kermee]

Here we go again with people and reading comprehension...

 

[glide]

Here we go again with people and reading comprehension...

While I agree it is partly a reading comprehension issue, the real issue is with Tesla’s wording in their release notes and marketing materials.

 

[RTPEV]

Here we go again with people and reading comprehension...

I was just about to post what glide just said. It really was a very misleading way for Tesla to word the release notes/announcement. And it's not even "reading comprehension", but a detailed technical understanding of nuances between "Full Self Driving hardware" and "Full Self Driving option".

 

[SSonnentag]

I would consider blind spot monitoring a safety feature. Didn't Elon say that safety features would always be included free of charge?

 

[ronm2948]

I guess it still needs to be confirmed, but my understanding is that all Tesla’s with AP2 or higher hardware (i.e. cars with FSD hardware - even if it is not enabled) get the blind spot monitoring features without having to pay for any extra packages. But the wording is confusing.

 

[chillaban]

I would consider blind spot monitoring a safety feature. Didn't Elon say that safety features would always be included free of charge?

It absolutely is there on cars with no EAP/FSD purchased! Poor wording of an announcement on Tesla's part, but all of this panic is undue.

 

[chillaban]

I guess it still needs to be confirmed, but my understanding is that all Tesla’s with AP2 or higher hardware (i.e. cars with FSD hardware - even if it is not enabled) get the blind spot monitoring features without having to pay for any extra packages. But the wording is confusing.

Marc Benton's friend on twitter shows blind spot warning and surround view working on AP2.5 Model 3's with no EAP

 

[dsvick]

I would consider blind spot monitoring a safety feature. Didn't Elon say that safety features would always be included free of charge?

Yes. And it is.

 

[SteveD]

Well I am glad to hear it is not limited to people who purchased the Full Self-Driving option (software). It did say "hardware" and most cars have the hardware. I was reading the release notes and it is a bit confusing.

BTW, I have a graduate degree and work in a field requiring high verbal skills. No need to belittle people over less than clear communication.

Since I started this post, can I delete it. False alarm...

 

[Nocturnal]

Here we go again with people and reading comprehension...

Nonsense. If it is included for free provided you have the right hardware then Tesla screwed up in describing that.

They are crap at this part of things and you all know it.

 

[dsvick]

Since I started this post, can I delete it. False alarm...

I wouldn't, it might help the next person who comes here with the same question ... assuming they search before posting ...

 

[Sagedaddy]

I'm looking forward to BSM and was informed by the post. I didn't spring for EAP. Sometimes it's good to get multiple eyes on a problem. Nobody is at fault, the wordsmithing analysis was helpful.

 

[N8Howell33]

But those panel gaps!!!!

 

[Nocturnal]

I wouldn't, it might help the next person who comes here with the same question ... assuming they search before posting ...

It is a shame somebody would even need to search for a new feature like this.

 

[UtahIsRad]

If it's a red line on the screen and that is your entire warning it's a waste of effort on their part to even implement it. Who looks toward the screen when they put on their blinker? This really should be either an audible alert, or better yet a tactic feedback through the steering wheel when you apply any force toward the direction of the other vehicle. This is done in computer guided surgical equipment all the time these days.