Ok all except the 30mph version California Love firmware. Only 35mph and on.
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Ok all except the 30mph version California Love firmware. Only 35mph and on.
henderrj
Active Member
99,056 miles and no accidents. Well, no AP accidents. I bought it from a guy who did have an accident, he wasn't using ap! How is it that the world went around when we didn't have autopilot? Like everybody else here, I cannot count the number of times AP has been faster than me. What a wonderful, wonderful, automobile! And we haven't even mentioned the pollution-free, quiet, not quite perfect, drive!
Most educational post ever!
Maybe this should be in Drivers' Handbooks? At least for those in the news recently.....
Nilnoc
Member
Too bad EAP is no good when parked. In my garage.
That’s where my accident happened....
That’s where my accident happened....
mmmk
Member
At just about 60 weeks here with my EAP and (missing FSD) with no accidents. But that's because I overtook autopilot on at least 3 occasions where it almost got me into embarrassing and or serious accidents.
Near accidents I've avoided while using EAP:
- Drifted into the lane to my left on the highway that was occupied by another car when it couldn't manage the turn
- EAP wanted to accelerate into the back of a pickup truck at a dead stop at a red light because (i have to assume since tesla wont give owners their own logs) because it was on a lift kit.
- Recently it abandoned 2 different lane changes during a road trip at 75 MPH so aggressively that the car almost lost control on the highway until i was able to force AP to disengage via the steering wheel.
And yea, I was alert and hands on wheel for all these, as well as submitted bug reports. SO I'm in the no accident club to but that doesn't mean EAP lives up to it's marketing.
Near accidents I've avoided while using EAP:
- Drifted into the lane to my left on the highway that was occupied by another car when it couldn't manage the turn
- EAP wanted to accelerate into the back of a pickup truck at a dead stop at a red light because (i have to assume since tesla wont give owners their own logs) because it was on a lift kit.
- Recently it abandoned 2 different lane changes during a road trip at 75 MPH so aggressively that the car almost lost control on the highway until i was able to force AP to disengage via the steering wheel.
And yea, I was alert and hands on wheel for all these, as well as submitted bug reports. SO I'm in the no accident club to but that doesn't mean EAP lives up to it's marketing.
Which reinforces the notion that, used as intended, with an attentive driver, AP blips need not cause one to crash and burn, despite the mass hysteria the press appears to be hell bent on promulgating.
You also might want to note what firmware level this happened with, as well as any extraneous conditions we all know affect AP. We all here know it has gone through some tough times. That was then, this is now. However, I think the general consensus here is it's gotten much better in a relatively short time given the several changes of direction development has taken, and appears to be on the right track.
mmmk
Member
I don't consider unsafe and life risking incidents from using EAP as intended by the manufacturer 'blips' but I respect your right to.
One risks one's life any time they get behind the wheel, AP enabled vehicle or not. Life is risky. AP can make it less risky in many situations, as others have indicated many times on TMC. But for now, it comes with the warnings to be alert at all times, which hopefully we all do.
Four hospitalized after chain-reaction crash - By Fran Gonzalez
Dodge truck plows into line of cars at a stoplight, no AP involved. This happened near my house at a temporary traffic light at a construction site on a bridge with great visibility. I have been over that bridge with AP1 but started disengaging when the light and cones appeared. Now where’s NTSB when you need them?
Dodge truck plows into line of cars at a stoplight, no AP involved. This happened near my house at a temporary traffic light at a construction site on a bridge with great visibility. I have been over that bridge with AP1 but started disengaging when the light and cones appeared. Now where’s NTSB when you need them?
Sadly, they as well as the media will only be motivated if a Tesla happened to be spotted within 1000 feet of the incident. At least it appears to be the case as of late...
Graffi
Member
One year and 2 days, over 25,000 miles, and almost all of it on AP2, and still no crashes or fires. I have the NTSB on Speed Dial just in case. You can never be toooooo careful.
mspohr
Well-Known Member
I think the accidents happen when people don't pay attention. They are texting on their phone (or other distracted driving).
jkennebeck
Member
I bought my CPO 2015 P85DL last July (so almost a year). I picked the car up in DC and was given a 15 minute lesson in the pilot seat. Autopilot was explained and I was told that its definitely NOT FSD so be aware at all times. Driving home to Richmond from DC on I95 which is usually really bad bumper to bumper traffic that i absolutely HATE driving in, i flicked old Otto ON and spent a nice relaxing journey home. I use my AP on my daily commute of about 18 miles. I tend to use it more on highways but occasionally in stop and go traffic in town as well.
mspohr
Well-Known Member
"Otto" pilot makes driving in stop and go traffic much less stressful.
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Teens killed in Fort Lauderdale crash were about to graduate from Pine Crest
More info - witness thinks it was 50-60 mph. So that's twice the speed limit and hitting a barrier at some kind of offset angle.
Death via suicide.
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