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Great post. I could not agree more on all points. I'd go 2020 no FSD all day long over this 2018 option, for exactly the reasons you mention.Just my opinion, but seems closer to being cheap than it seems like a good deal.
It doesn’t have FSD (do any?), so a better comparison is 55k for a new one without FSD imo. The delta is basically in the needed FSD upgrade costs. A few thousand more for upgrading the new one vs upgrading the used one. Given current interest rates have me financing rather than cash, those savings are somewhat eroded by the higher used interest rate. At some point, there should also be a general public residual value delta that favors a 2020 over a 2018, even if similar mileage. Add in some warranty life differences, the risks inherent to getting basically a rental, and I’d pass and go new without FSD.
Perhaps I’m undervaluing the need to buy new with FSD. Maybe it’s really around the corner this time. From my experience in buying Tesla’s, that FSD option is a loan to Tesla and you’ll need to pay to upgrade to the latest in the future anyways.
The Tesla fanboys will have you burned at the stake for such an utterance; however, I don't disagree with any of what you said. In my perspective FSD is close to vaporware at this point. You're fronting Tesla a sum of money for them to deliver an unknown product at an unspecified time in the future. Not a popular position to take on TMC but I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise. FSD is not leaps and bounds better than AutoPilot at this point in time. When the gap becomes much larger I will make a decision if I want to purchase it even if it's considerably more than the current $8,000 price tag.Great post. I could not agree more on all points. I'd go 2020 no FSD all day long over this 2018 option, for exactly the reasons you mention.
And not to derail the thread, but completely agree on FSD as well. It is absolutely not worth the $8k, nor is it worth the speculative gamble that it might be down the line. Not to mention that feature does not have the same depreciation curve as the rest of the car. The market values FSD at $3-$4k right now, so you essentially take a 50% hit the second you drive the car off the lot. Used I think it'll hold that value so there's not a ton of risk, but it's not even worth $4k IMO.
In summary for the OP, I'd definitely go brand new with no FSD. If you were to sell the car in two years just as an example, my guess is you'd get REAL close to the entire difference in price back, meaning the brand new option didn't really "cost" you more.
Agree.The Tesla fanboys will have you burned at the stake for such an utterance; however, I don't disagree with any of what you said. In my perspective FSD is close to vaporware at this point. You're fronting Tesla a sum of money for them to deliver an unknown product at an unspecified time in the future. Not a popular position to take on TMC but I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise. FSD is not leaps and bounds better than AutoPilot at this point in time. When the gap becomes much larger I will make a decision if I want to purchase it even if it's considerably more than the current $8,000 price tag.
Unless you drive the car until it’s worth $0, the resale price is critical in determining value, which was the OPs objective. Are the early features better able to later be monetized than having HW3?I think the general Tesla buying public has stated with their dollars that FSD isnt worth the current cost. Theres far more without than with it.
On a note about the 2018 vs 2020, I'm inclined to go with the 2018 if the condition is good and range is holding up well. In late 2019 Tesla started pulling all sorts of stuff from the car like the homelink, bag hooks, ambient lights, dimming side mirrors and frunk mats. Plus EAP while not full FSD does have some features that are active now and useful so its buying a known quantity. Of course you need to get the price in the right spot as well.