@PITA This is the best news I’ve had all week - thank you. Can you do me a favour? Can you tell me the full name of the tariff which you are on? When I last called Octopus, they told me that I could not have a smart meter with 3-phase. Since this is clearly wrong (because you have one), I’d like to be able to steer them in the direction of the tariff which you are on. Thanks again.
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Changing electricity supplier
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PITA
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Yep... the 3 Phase Smart Meter is an EDMI ES-30B
I'm on the Octopus Go Tariff...
ES-30B - EDMI Meters
ES-30B Three Phase SMETS2 Electric Smart Meter Class 1 and Class 2
www.edmi-meters.com
Great. I’ll give them a buzz tomorrow. Fingers crossed…Yep... the 3 Phase Smart Meter is an EDMI ES-30B
I'm on the Octopus Go Tariff...
ES-30B - EDMI Meters
ES-30B Three Phase SMETS2 Electric Smart Meter Class 1 and Class 2
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Alex987854
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As long as it provides half hourly readings, you can switch to Octopus go. Go doesn't rely on a separate circuit like Economy 7 does. Don't forget to use a referral if you do decide to switch to Octopus.
Just wondered if anyone can shed any light on this, I first rang Octopus to change and as per usual tried to persuade me not to switch. When I was about to proceed, they said I need a smart meter 2 for the Go tariff, however, it seems like E-on fitted an SM1 for me 2 years ago and to get an SM2 installed will take 3-6 months?
I've now rang my own supplier (Shell - was pure planet but went bust and got assigned to Shell) to insist on a SM2, they kept insisting since I have a SM1 i do not need SM2 as they are already pulling the reading, however, after pushing a little, they finally agreed to book me in for a change to SM2 in middle of April.
Now I've got the confirmation that the meter swap is happening, would it be possible to initiate the switch? Or should I wait till the meter swap is complete? And would it be compatible with Octopus requirement?
I've now rang my own supplier (Shell - was pure planet but went bust and got assigned to Shell) to insist on a SM2, they kept insisting since I have a SM1 i do not need SM2 as they are already pulling the reading, however, after pushing a little, they finally agreed to book me in for a change to SM2 in middle of April.
Now I've got the confirmation that the meter swap is happening, would it be possible to initiate the switch? Or should I wait till the meter swap is complete? And would it be compatible with Octopus requirement?
Yes, Octopus can only get data from Secure branded SMETS1 meters. There are others out there that they can't connect to.
I wouldn't chance it. The appointments will be made by your existing provider, even if the meter is changed by a third party. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they got cancelled if you start the process to leave.
Pink Duck
Active Member
I was quoted similarly, based on the Octopus 10m Fixed March 2022 V1 intermediate tariff for electricity-only switch, which is pricier than when moving both gas and electricity to them (38.3 p/kWh otherwise). However, once joined it should be possible to move on to one of the Go tariffs or potentially the Intelligent early-access one (requires iOS app). They say up to 14 days later, but I don't see why it should take that long when my SMETS2 meter already gives half-hourly readings to current provider Shell once a day.
WannabeOwner
Well-Known Member
Ah! Sounds like the usual definition of the difference between Americans and Brits:
Americans think that 200 years is a long time. Brits think that 200 miles is a long way 
I have a 7 hours overnight off-peak rate ... but its not as cheap as the 4-hour tariff.
I use TeslaFi to stop charging at the end of that period, so that I never charge at peak rate. If I come home "empty" then it will take two nights to fully recharge. If I need to go somewhere "distant" tomorrow then I'll need to override to get more than 7 hours charging.
Folk with 4 hours overnight charge rate can do that too ... just needs for the 4 hour rate to cover the majority of their use-cases. 4 hours is going to be somewhere between 80 and 110 miles (7Kw / 240v)
Absolutely. It's the supplier who owns the smart meter.
So changing supplier now would risk your current supplier loosing interest.
The swap will absolutely be a SMETS2 meter, only they are allowed to be installed now.
Pink Duck
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ACarneiro
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Undecided_2
Member
Yep. I lived in the US for several years and was always amazed at how cheap energy was. When I moved to AZ the place had Solar and was super cheap! I miss it.
Europe is expensive as most energy is imported and taxed in the U.K. the energy companies are claiming that it’s expensive for them, yet right now they’re making record profits. I’m facing energy bills of around £4K annually starting August…
I changed from Scottish Power at the end of March, when the 2 year fixed tariff ended, to Octopus Go, I've just moved on to Intelligent Octopus which charges 7.5p/KwH from 23:30 to 05:30, which is more than enough time. They also extended the fixed rate to 12 months from 20 May 2022, so if the cap goes up my rates will not.
The "high" rate is 34.86p/KwH,. about twice the previous rate with Scottish power. We have 4KwH PV and a 3KwH battery, plus solar boost to the hot water tank. I get perverse pleasure from seeing the Smart Meter reading "0" when the sun shines.
The "high" rate is 34.86p/KwH,. about twice the previous rate with Scottish power. We have 4KwH PV and a 3KwH battery, plus solar boost to the hot water tank. I get perverse pleasure from seeing the Smart Meter reading "0" when the sun shines.
Undecided_2
Member
Nice! We’re going to install PV and Storage batteries but finding someone with the availability to install is the problem.
Thank you that's very useful. Electrician did mention the tails would need upgrading too so will have to time it with the fuse upgrade.
Andaroooooo
Member
When looking to switch is it better to call them up, or do you get the same rates you would get online anyway?
Same rates I guess, they don't offer tailored quotes.
Important point however is to ensure you have a compatible SMETS2 meter as most SMETS1 are incompatible with EV tariffs and providers are very reluctant to upgrade them..
Important point however is to ensure you have a compatible SMETS2 meter as most SMETS1 are incompatible with EV tariffs and providers are very reluctant to upgrade them..
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