Climate Change / Global Warming Discussion

[winfield100]

Maybe the new administration will fix some of this.

what vehicle does the new transportation Secretary drive?

 

[MXLRplus]

what vehicle does the new transportation Secretary drive?

If they are like Californian politicos, it will be an Hydrogen (fossil fuel) car or an armored Suburban.

 

[Johan]

what vehicle does the new transportation Secretary drive?

Pete Buttigieg wants to put 'millions' of electric cars on US roads - Electrek

According to two articleis last year he drove a Chevy Cruze:

Analysis: Pete Buttigieg drives a Chevy Cruze, and other Ohio debate takeaways

Presidential candidates' car choices make a statement

 

[MXLRplus]

Pete Buttigieg wants to put 'millions' of electric cars on US roads - Electrek

According to two articleis last year he drove a Chevy Cruze:

Analysis: Pete Buttigieg drives a Chevy Cruze, and other Ohio debate takeaways

Presidential candidates' car choices make a statement

Look at actions, not words.

Here's a VERY unpopular picture:

Donald Trump's Tesla.

 

[thx1139]

Look at actions, not words.

Here's a VERY unpopular picture:

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Donald Trump's Tesla.

Like his wives, just a trophy

 

[MXLRplus]

Like his wives, just a trophy

Our new TransSec wants millions of electric cars in the US. This is good, he already accomplished his job before even getting hired without doing anything at all. 2018 was the first million EVs and it's 2021. (But not one of those EVs are his). He doesn't have to lift a finger except to grab a handful of taxes.

EEI Celebrates 1 Million Electric Vehicles on U.S. Roads

 

[JRP3]

Look at actions, not words.

Action taken by the government are more impactful than individual choices. Rolling back environmental protections are far more detrimental than buying a single EV which you almost never use.

 

[MXLRplus]

Action taken by the government are more impactful than individual choices. Rolling back environmental protections are far more detrimental than buying a single EV which you almost never use.

Like removing the EV rebates? (California and Congress). BTW, list a "rollback" on vehicles. This would be an increase in 2021 emissions.

 

[nwdiver]

BTW, list a "rollback" on vehicles.

Trump finalizes rollback of Obama-era vehicle fuel efficiency standards

 

[thx1139]

Our new TransSec wants millions of electric cars in the US. This is good, he already accomplished his job before even getting hired without doing anything at all. 2018 was the first million EVs and it's 2021. (But not one of those EVs are his). He doesn't have to lift a finger except to grab a handful of taxes.

EEI Celebrates 1 Million Electric Vehicles on U.S. Roads

Huh?

 

[MXLRplus]

Trump finalizes rollback of Obama-era vehicle fuel efficiency standards

List it. I see nothing there that allows me to increase emissions for 2021.
In fact CARB and EPA vigorously went after automotive polluters. Nationwide online retailer JEGS pays $1.7 million to settle case for selling illegal auto parts in California | California Air Resources Board etc.

 

[nwdiver]

List it. I see nothing there that allows me to increase emissions for 2021.

??? Average CAFE standards where set to increase to 54mpg by 2025 until the bigot-in-chief stopped it... it's a stepped increase including for 2021.

The Trump administration is in the process of rolling back Obama-era fuel economy standards, which were originally set to hit an average of 54.5 miles per gallon for passenger cars and trucks by 2025.

While not yet finalized, the Trump administration’s proposed rule freezes fuel economy standards at 2020 levels through 2026​

 

[MXLRplus]

??? Average CAFE standards where set to increase to 54mpg by 2025 until the bigot-in-chief stopped it... it's a stepped increase including for 2021.

The Trump administration is in the process of rolling back Obama-era fuel economy standards, which were originally set to hit an average of 54.5 miles per gallon for passenger cars and trucks by 2025.

While not yet finalized, the Trump administration’s proposed rule freezes fuel economy standards at 2020 levels through 2026​

What do you imagine the word 'freezes' means? Oh, it means Increases?

 

[nwdiver]

What do you imagine the word 'freezes' means?

It means that efficiency standards remain unchanged. So emissions will be higher due to the monsters actions...

Gutting fuel economy standards during a pandemic is peak Trump

 

[MXLRplus]

It means that efficiency standards remain unchanged. So emissions will be higher due to the monsters actions...

Gutting fuel economy standards during a pandemic is peak Trump

Well the popup ads here just listed body armor. I think I'm no longer at a car site.

Opinions are not facts.

 

[nwdiver]

Well the popup ads here just listed body armor. I think I'm no longer at a car site.

Opinions are not facts.

FACT: The bigot-in-chief gutted emissions standards meaning cars sold in 2021 will burn on average more fools fuel than if the monster had NOT moved to undermine Obama.

The Facts on Fuel Economy Standards

 

[Dave EV]

FACT: The bigot-in-chief gutted emissions standards meaning cars sold in 2021 will burn on average more fools fuel than if the monster had NOT moved to undermine Obama.

While I agree with your underlying message and am no fan of the current president, stooping down to name-calling doesn't help you get your message across any more than the president does when he uses the same tactic.

 

[nwdiver]

While I agree with your underlying message and am no fan of the current president, stooping down to name-calling doesn't help you get your message across any more than the president does when he uses the same tactic.

I'm not 'name calling' ... I'm being precise. No different than calling Elon an Entrepreneur.... or the CEO of Tesla. Elon earned those titles by founding and developing several companies. The bigot-in-chief earned his title by referring to literal Nazis as 'fine people'.... among many... many others.....

If someone commits adultery is it 'name calling' to refer to them as an adulterer? If someone commits murder is it 'name calling' to refer to them as a murderer? If someone commits a felony is it 'name calling' to refer to them as a felon? If someone attempts an insurrection is it 'name calling' to refer to them as a traitor? No? Then why would it be 'name calling' to refer to the chief of the bigots as the 'bigot-in-chief' and a monster??? If someone doesn't like the title then they shouldn't earn it....

An example of 'name calling' would be generalizing immigrants that are fleeing violence at home as 'thugs' or 'rapists'......

 

[MXLRplus]

FACT: The bigot-in-chief gutted emissions standards meaning cars sold in 2021 will burn on average more fools fuel than if the monster had NOT moved to undermine Obama.

The Facts on Fuel Economy Standards

Quoting political opinion sites is not science, law, or facts. There is no increase in 2021 emissions. Fact. Now if the new President and Congress decide to increase emissions that's another story. But they will probably nerf EVs like they have been.

 

[nwdiver]

Quoting political opinion sites is not science, law, or facts. There is no increase in 2021 emissions. Fact. Now if the new President and Congress decide to increase emissions that's another story. But they will probably nerf EVs like they have been.

EPA standards are LOWER in 2021 than they would have been otherwise. That's not political 'opinion' it's law, it's a fact. Emissions WILL BE higher in 2021 due to lower standards... that's math... that's science... NOT 'opinion'....