Also NASA, as the NASA Administrator Bill Nelson says at COP28, is sharing the data gathered about the Earth's Changing Climate with Global Leaders in their efforts to protect our planet.
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Also NASA, as the NASA Administrator Bill Nelson says at COP28, is sharing the data gathered about the Earth's Changing Climate with Global Leaders in their efforts to protect our planet.
mspohr
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CO2 crosses borders so it's a global problem. Good to track emissions by countries but they shouldn't get a pass because of absorption.
No pass only an approval for the good work done to reduce Carbon Emissions IMO.
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Cop28 is a farce rigged to fail, but there are other ways we can try to save the planet | George Monbiot
Inaction and self-interest are built into climate summits. Instead, we need a voting system that can’t be subverted by fossil fuel producers, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot
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Let’s face it: climate summits are broken. The delegates talk and talk, while Earth systems slide towards deadly tipping points. Since the climate negotiations began in 1992 more carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels has been released worldwide than in all preceding human history. This year is likely to set a new emissions record. They are talking us to oblivion. Throughout these Conference of the Parties (Cop) summits, fossil fuel lobbyists have swarmed the corridors and meeting rooms. It’s like allowing weapons manufacturers to dominate a peace conference. This year, the lobbyists outnumber all but one of the national delegations. And they’re not the only ones: Cop28 is also heaving with meat and livestock lobbyists and reps from other planet-trashing industries. What should be the most important summit on Earth is treated like a trade fair.
It’s not surprising that the two decisive measures these negotiations should have delivered at the outset – agreements to leave fossil fuels in the ground and to end most livestock farming – have never featured in the final outcome of any Cop summit. Nor should we be astonished that these agreements favour non-solutions such as carbon capture and storage, whose sole purpose is to provide an excuse for inaction.
The result is that the oil states got what they wanted, by default. What “consensus” means is that every nation has a veto: 198 delegates can agree to a measure, but it can be blocked by the 199th. The most lethal interests prevail, by design.
However we do it, we need to break the power of the Earth-devouring industries before they break us. Otherwise, we will keep watching as yet another year is wasted, yet another of our last chances scorches and shrivels. Soon, there will be no years left.
mspohr
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Opec rails against fossil fuel phase-out at Cop28 in leaked letters
Oil cartel warns ‘pressure may reach a tipping point’ and that ‘politically motivated campaigns put our prosperity’ at risk
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The Opec oil cartel has warned its member countries with “utmost urgency” that “pressure against fossil fuels may reach a tipping point with irreversible consequences” at Cop28, in leaked letters seen by the Guardian. The letters noted that a “fossil fuels phase out” remains on the negotiating table at the UN climate summit and urges the oil states to “proactively reject any text or formula that targets energy, ie fossil fuels, rather than emissions”.
These letters show that fossil fuel interests are starting to realise that the writing is on the wall for dirty energy,” said Mohamed Adow, of the NGO and thinktank Power Shift Africa. “Climate change is killing poor people around the globe and these petrostates don’t want Cop28 to phase out fossil fuels because it will hurt their short-term profits. It’s shameful. “The reality is, if the world is going to save itself, it cannot be held back by a small band of countries that control the world’s oil supply. As well as saving us from climate change, a renewable-powered world is also one where energy is dispersed and democratised. Fossil fuels keep power in the hands of the few that happen to have them.”
The petrostates prefer to focus on emissions, rather than the fossil fuels themselves, saying that carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology could stop the CO2 reaching the atmosphere. However, Fatih Birol, head of the International Energy Agency, said recently that CCS technology will never scale up to cover the emissions of the oil and gas sector if they carry on with business as usual: “It’s a fantasy, an illusion.” Heavy dependence on CCS to reach net zero targets around 2050 would also be “highly economically damaging”, costing at least $30tn more than a renewable energy route, according to a report published on 4 December by University of Oxford researchers.
Cop28 is a farce rigged to fail, but there are other ways we can try to save the planet | George Monbiot
Inaction and self-interest are built into climate summits. Instead, we need a voting system that can’t be subverted by fossil fuel producers, says Guardian columnist George Monbiot
Let’s face it: climate summits are broken. The delegates talk and talk, while Earth systems slide towards deadly tipping points. Since the climate negotiations began in 1992 more carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels has been released worldwide than in all preceding human history. This year is likely to set a new emissions record. They are talking us to oblivion. Throughout these Conference of the Parties (Cop) summits, fossil fuel lobbyists have swarmed the corridors and meeting rooms. It’s like allowing weapons manufacturers to dominate a peace conference. This year, the lobbyists outnumber all but one of the national delegations. And they’re not the only ones: Cop28 is also heaving with meat and livestock lobbyists and reps from other planet-trashing industries. What should be the most important summit on Earth is treated like a trade fair.
It’s not surprising that the two decisive measures these negotiations should have delivered at the outset – agreements to leave fossil fuels in the ground and to end most livestock farming – have never featured in the final outcome of any Cop summit. Nor should we be astonished that these agreements favour non-solutions such as carbon capture and storage, whose sole purpose is to provide an excuse for inaction.
The result is that the oil states got what they wanted, by default. What “consensus” means is that every nation has a veto: 198 delegates can agree to a measure, but it can be blocked by the 199th. The most lethal interests prevail, by design.
However we do it, we need to break the power of the Earth-devouring industries before they break us. Otherwise, we will keep watching as yet another year is wasted, yet another of our last chances scorches and shrivels. Soon, there will be no years left.
That's why I agree with former Vice President Al Gore who said that the annual United Nations COP climate summits need to be reformed so that petrostates don’t wield so much power over the final outcome.
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There you have it; thanks mspohr.
I guess I must have been thinking about something else...
Azerbaijan chosen to host Cop29 after fraught negotiations
Climate activists likely to be concerned by another fossil fuel-reliant country taking over summit presidency
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It looks like Russia has some responsability in this decision of Azerbaijan hosting COP29. Think that the UN should have prevented this happened.
Azerbaijan chosen to host Cop29 after fraught negotiations
Climate activists likely to be concerned by another fossil fuel-reliant country taking over summit presidency
It looks like Russia has some responsability in this decision of Azerbaijan hosting COP29. Think that the UN should have prevented this happened.
Oil-reliant Azerbaijan chosen to host Cop29 climate talks
Azerbaijan gets two-thirds of its revenue from oil and gas, one of the highest percentages of any country in the world
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Azerbaijan gets two-thirds of its revenue from oil and gas, one of the highest percentages in the world and more than the Cop28 host – the United Arab Emirates.
So after COP28 and the opposition of the United Arab Emirates to the phaseout of fossil fuels what we expect at COP29 will happen?
Oil-reliant Azerbaijan chosen to host Cop29 climate talks
Azerbaijan gets two-thirds of its revenue from oil and gas, one of the highest percentages of any country in the world
Azerbaijan gets two-thirds of its revenue from oil and gas, one of the highest percentages in the world and more than the Cop28 host – the United Arab Emirates.
So after COP28 and the opposition of the United Arab Emirates to the phaseout of fossil fuels what we expect at COP29 will happen?
But the decision of having COP29 in Azerbaijan also got positive remarks.Oil-reliant Azerbaijan chosen to host Cop29 climate talks
Azerbaijan gets two-thirds of its revenue from oil and gas, one of the highest percentages of any country in the world
Azerbaijan gets two-thirds of its revenue from oil and gas, one of the highest percentages in the world and more than the Cop28 host – the United Arab Emirates.
So after COP28 and the opposition of the United Arab Emirates to the phaseout of fossil fuels what we expect at COP29 will happen?
But there was relief from some that a decision had been reached. “It is good that the uncertainty over who will host Cop29 is over. It means that plans can now be made coming out of Cop28, for the key years of 2024 and 2025 when new climate targets have to be tabled by all countries,” said Kaveh Guilanpour, the vice-president of the Center for Climate and Energy Solutions.
So let's hope that COP29 in Azerbaijan will produce positive results for mankind.
The UK’s former climate chief has warned that failure to agree a phase-out of fossil fuels at the UN Cop28 climate summit would push the world beyond the crucial 1.5C temperature limit and into climate breakdown.
So my worries were founded.
Think that if we will fail to phase out fossil fuels at COP28, since Azerbaijan gets two-thirds of its revenue from oil and gas, one of the highest percentages in the world and more than the COP28 host – the United Arab Emirates, we will have a domino effect and we will fail to phase out fossil fuels at COP29 in Azerbaijan too.
This is a matter having to do with the safety of the whole world.
Under these conditions the UN should intervene IMO.
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The question of whether the final agreement from COP28 includes a call for a “phase-out” or “phase-down” of fossil fuels is seen by many as being the single most important indicator of success at the UN summit.
Actually the "phase-down" (reductions of fossil fuels burning) is preparatory to the "phase-out". In fact we cannot stop burning fossil fuels suddenly.
Main thing IMO is to set a date, for instance 2050, for the "phase-out".
It will be important also to establish what percentage of Carbon Emissions will be cut in the intermediate stages.
We are looking for what the final agreement will be at COP28.
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NASA is working with others to achieve net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 thanks to new green aviation technologies. These include innovative aircraft shapes, electrified propulsion, and others intended to make flight more sustainable.
The whole transportation is responsible for 50% of oil used. We have to reduce the use of fossil fuels for transportation as soon as possible (phase-down) and get net zero emissions by 2050 (phase-out).
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Simon Stiell, Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), is optimistic about the final agreement at COP28.
Key point of the final agreement at COP28 is the phaseout from fossil fuels. Let's see how this matter will be treated in the final agreement at COP28.
Also ESA confirms that November 2023 was warmest November on record.
So we have six warmest months on record in a row in 2023.
Until December 2023.
mspohr
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Pure evil
Saudi Arabia, the world’s leading exporter of oil, has become the biggest obstacle to an agreement at the United Nations climate summit in Dubai, where countries are debating whether to call for a phaseout of fossil fuels in order to fight global warming, negotiators and other officials said. The Saudi delegation has flatly opposed any language in a deal that would even mention fossil fuels — the oil, gas and coal that, when burned, create emissions that are dangerously heating the planet.
Saudi negotiators have also objected to a provision, endorsed by at least 118 countries, aimed at tripling global renewable energy capacity by 2030
Saudi Arabia, the world’s leading exporter of oil, has become the biggest obstacle to an agreement at the United Nations climate summit in Dubai, where countries are debating whether to call for a phaseout of fossil fuels in order to fight global warming, negotiators and other officials said. The Saudi delegation has flatly opposed any language in a deal that would even mention fossil fuels — the oil, gas and coal that, when burned, create emissions that are dangerously heating the planet.
Saudi negotiators have also objected to a provision, endorsed by at least 118 countries, aimed at tripling global renewable energy capacity by 2030
No way. Former Vice President Al Gore is absolutely CORRECT!
The annual United Nations COP climate summits need to be reformed so that petrostates don’t wield so much power.
We cannot depend upon the interests of Single States to work out the Climate Change issue.
This is a matter which has to be discussed and solved at the UN.
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This is a matter concerning the safety of the whole world. So the UN Security Council has to give directions on this matter IMO. Hopefully Saudi Arabia is not in the Security Council.
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