Pstoppani
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He is a newbie who has no clue how to use car systems.
Who? Me? LOL! The Model 3 is my 60th car, third EV and a total car junkie. I've also developed a CANBUS based instrument cluster for cars
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He is a newbie who has no clue how to use car systems.
I have a radar equipped model, and with the current software release these two issues "seem" to have gotten worse. I was in Santa Monica in stop and go traffic last weekend when the MY braked hard (car in front was slowing, but the Y stopped short) causing the car behind me to swerve onto the shoulder to try to avoid rear ending me. It still would have hit me, but I had to hit the gas to allow him room to swerve. This is my third vehicle with radar cruise, and I'm sorry to say, the worst implementation of it so far. I really hope Tesla dedicate some time to significantly improve this system. I feel it's dangerous in Stop and Go, and that's where I tend to find it useful.My issues with autopilot after about 2500 miles driving my Y:
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- in traffic, autopilot is jerky: it speeds up and slows down much too abruptly. I find myself turning off autopilot in stop and go traffic (which really should be one of the most useful places to use self driving).
- it has a hard time with an unusual road pattern like merging lanes. It will alert and then disengage.
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You must be using the part indicator, I.e. 3 blinks. If you push/pull past the first notch, you activate full indicator and Autosteer will disengage while keeping TACC on.Autosteer remains on when I activate the blinker
I didn't realize that..... But the whole point of the '3 blinks' is for lane changes, so that should disable it, TBH.You must be using the part indicator, I.e. 3 blinks. If you push/pull past the first notch, you activate full indicator and Autosteer will disengage while keeping TACC on.
Are you sure it is not just adjusting for a changed speed limit? The slow down can be quite abrupt if you have settings as such.So what? you were there? No. My wife and I were…. Nothing like going 75 on a 3 lane fwy and the car suddenly slows to 50. Had to keep foot on accel pedal to override it multiple times. Finally just turned it off.
When I turn on the 3-blink blinker for lane change, it actually requires a lot less force to disengage than non-blinking, for the most of the cases (as a few times it did not work and surprised me). This actually matches the manual. It is also easy to disengage when the auto steering is less confident, such as on the local road with curve or lane merge/split.I picked up my vehicle yesterday, and have ~150 miles on it. Maybe 50 of that is with TACC/autosteer.
The TACC has been great except for one weird slowdown when I was passing a semi truck at night. I won’t call it “phantom breaking” because this instance really wasn’t that; it just decreased speed smoothly from 75 to maybe 72, then slowly increased back to the set point. My wife’s car has Nissan’s ProPilot and it does similar things when a vehicle crosses slightly into my lane (though I don’t think the truck did so).
Autosteer is aggressive. It really wants to control the wheel, and unless you put (momentarily) fairly significant torque into steering, it doesn’t let go. Changing lanes takes some getting used to. The Nissan system disengages steering when you put on a blinker, then re-engages after 5 or so seconds when you’ve changed lanes. Autosteer remains on when I activate the blinker, and I haven’t quite gotten the hang of smoothly disengaging it with the wheel; there’s a significant “jerk” when the car releases control back to me. Some systems (Nissan, Mazda, etc.) seem to make their auto-steering somewhat of a suggestion, and in the presence of any input from the driver, the driver wins. Others (Tesla, VW) sleek to treat the vehicle’s inputs as the priority until the system is disengaged. I don’t know that one is better or worse than the other, but changing between them takes some getting used to.
Unfortunately, it’s hard to get used to autosteer’s idiosyncrasies, because re-engaging autosteer after a lane change also re-engages the worst implementation of automatic high beams I’ve yet encountered. I certainly don’t need high beams (or any headlights, really) 45 minutes before sunset in clear weather with a car 150 feet in front of me. And yet, there is my new car, blinking the high beams at the car in front, then apparently turning them off when the reflection becomes visible in the polished metal of that car’s tailgate (that’s an assumption, based on the fact that the blinking went away when a different-colored car got in front of me). I know I can turn them off, and I do, but there has to be a solution that doesn’t involve constantly remembering to disable the automated road rage generator.
I think it will get there. I have to keep in mind that the weirdness of the system in my wife’s car is likely to be that way forever. Tesla has the capability to update core systems in very short order, especially by auto industry standards.
Autopilot seems to ignore school zone speed limit signs which can cost ALOT if you get a ticketI've had my Model Y for 2,500 miles. I really like the car. I love how it drives, the tech, the supercharger network, etc.
My main complaint with the car is that cruise control & auto pilot are pretty much unusable.
I've had repeated issues with phantom breaking. It seems to usually happen when approaching overpasses or exit signs over the highway. I don't understand how Tesla hasn't fixed this issue. It doesn't matter if it's daytime or night. I drove to the mountains at 4 am this morning and literally had phantom breaking on the highway 5x in 5 minutes. I have my settings to keep cruise control at my set speed (not the option to refer to the speed limit signs). I watched it this morning and I had the speed set to 70. Every time, I could see the speed limit on the screen drop from my set speed to 50 mph.
How are they going to perfect full self-driving if they can't even resolve this problem? Just ranting here as the car would be near perfect if they would fix this.
Which is why you gotta be in control of your car…Autopilot DOES NOT recognize School Zone Speed limit signs which around these parts is a very costly ticket
I was also thinking this would be a good idea. Hopefully a software update will add this function, or at least the option. Reengaging it after a lane change isn't convenient and goes against Elon's ethos of minimizing human input as much as possible.The Nissan system disengages steering when you put on a blinker, then re-engages after 5 or so seconds when you’ve changed lanes. Autosteer remains on when I activate the blinker, and I haven’t quite gotten the hang of smoothly disengaging it with the wheel; there’s a significant “jerk” when the car releases control back to me.
You do need to consider adjusting the following distance as traffic conditions change. I scroll down to 1 when in stop-and-go traffic but usually use 3 when traffic is moving along.As a new member of the Tesla family, I was mostly impressed with how Autopilot handled our first road trip in the car this past weekend. Only used it on the highway, and by and large it did everything well. Had one unnecessary full stop in slower traffic, which may have had something to do with us being in the shade of an overpass and the car in front being out in the full sun?
The main shortcoming was when people ahead of me would start braking somewhat firmly. Where I would smoothly apply gradual pressure, knowing how much I'd need to stop eventually stop quickly if that became necessary, the car seems to take a more conservative approach of braking firmly at first, giving itself all the room in the world to slow down the rest of the way if necessary.
I suspect this is how quite a lot of people drive, but it's uncomfortable for us in the car, more dangerous for the cars behind, and it's exactly the sort of driving that creates traffic in the first place. In stop and go traffic it was exaggerated, which is a bummer because that's when I need it the most.
What the system can do is amazing, but I do think the robots should be better at this than the humans and not cause more traffic and discomfort than we already find ourselves in. But I'm sure we'll get there, one update at a time.
Wish I could, but 3 is the closest option for vision only AFAIK.You do need to consider adjusting the following distance as traffic conditions change. I scroll down to 1 when in stop-and-go traffic but usually use 3 when traffic is moving along.
Ah that's right. Well, that will change at some point.Wish I could, but 3 is the closest option for vision only AFAIK.
I was NOT on autopilot. The car normally reads the speed limit sign and it changes on the touchscreen. For School Zones. FAIL.......I am using Autopilot less. MyWhich is why you gotta be in control of your car…