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Delay in model X launch?
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NigelM
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scottf200
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Interesting point but I was thinking the motors, differential, power adapter, and software to manage them would be the same. I was guessing towing would require chassis/frame and suspension would only need to be changed. Hmm... now you have me thinking about software changes they may need to make to worry about extra heat as an example. (Aside: Maybe air suspension will be required if you pick towing.)
The S/X "skateboard" would need a subframe as-is to do Class 3/4 towing. Since the Torque Central EcoHitch connects to the bumper mounts on the shell, I don't see anything like that working for 3/4 towing, no matter what the power and suspension capabilities are. I really think the rear subframe for the X is going to be a bit different than the S and will allow for mounting points of a fat steel assembly that the hitch connects to. Looking at the S's rear subframe, I don't see that happening so it's probably going to be different on the X.
(OMG! Speculation!
)The Southern Hemisphere is all of California below the Grapevine Pass, right? So you're thinking Big Bear/Lake Arrowhead? With the drought, I don't know. I was going to suggest Canada, but the entire country is on fire so I guess the snow melted, and that statement also applies to Alaska. </Sarcasm>
Sorry if you got our forest fire smoke. It was miserable here for a couple of weeks. It was so hot, and couldn't open up the windows to let the cooler air in at night to cool things off because the smoke was so awful. I'd never seen it so bad.
Actually, I did encounter it in Minnesota. It reminded me of days in California with smog; mysterious orange daylight. Go plant some trees in the burned areas, OK? Whatever you like, even a maple tree. Let's all hope for some serious snowfall this winter in Canada and California. I can't imagine being in that zone.
pvogel
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Yes that Elon blog post has been extensively discussed on TMC. The question remains as to exactly what is meant by "first deliveries" (Founder Series cars, Signature reservation holders, what?) and when the online X Design Studio will launch.
hockeythug
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Per Musk on the call: Biggest issue is NOT the falcon wing doors. Second row seats and and various interior parts are bigger concerns.
Just to be clear, you think what Elon said today was specific enough to corroborate this:
If that's the case I would have to disagree. Nothing said at today's conference rises to the level of what Mr. Eds predicted.
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gizmoboy
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I'd agree. They mention maybe missing 800 Xs if things go south, but that sounded like a fraction of what they expect to ship.
Oh give me a break. I said his info "seems" spot on. Not that there was point by point corroboration by Elon. On Eds 6 points:
1. Yes, based on what Elon said, sounds like they are still doing changes.
2. Sounds like current builds still will have prototype components.
3. Elon specifically said that some suppliers are having trouble ramping up. He didn't say that in so many words, but he did say delays would be due to the supplier with worst luck. He even said that some suppliers might have design problems, even now.
4. Eds didn't provide enough detail about this point.
5. This is speculation on Eds part, you can discount this. Having said that, did you notice that Elon wouldn't comment on doing or not doing another financing raise?
6. Eds' opinion.
OK?
1. Yes, based on what Elon said, sounds like they are still doing changes.
2. Sounds like current builds still will have prototype components.
3. Elon specifically said that some suppliers are having trouble ramping up. He didn't say that in so many words, but he did say delays would be due to the supplier with worst luck. He even said that some suppliers might have design problems, even now.
4. Eds didn't provide enough detail about this point.
5. This is speculation on Eds part, you can discount this. Having said that, did you notice that Elon wouldn't comment on doing or not doing another financing raise?
6. Eds' opinion.
OK?
gizmoboy
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I was speaking the #2 of his characterization of a "successful launch" (the first #2).
The other stuff sounds both reasonable and to be expected for a new product to me.
And Tesla makes 20 changes per week to the S years into production, so #1 (the second #1) is hardly a stretch.
Well, I am hoping Eds first three point list (<100 cars delivered to customers by end of year) isn't correct either, but gosh, today's conference call didn't fill me with confidence. They have slipped overall yearly sales from 55,000 to 50,000. Elon went on and on about how Model X launch slipping a week here and there would impact quarterly numbers significantly, so this is obviously a real problem in his mind. He said they are still trying to figure out second row seats and some interior trim. It's pretty late in the game to be working on those items if you are going to be delivering cars in 2 months.
gjunky
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He mentioned these two items as having possible supplier issues, not that they are "working on it"
