Do any HW4 Vehicles have FSD Beta activated ?

[bhbbhb]

I traded in my 2022 Model x - that had FSD Beta activated for a 2023 Model X Plaid - with HW4. Sort of disappointed that I went from a working FSD beta vehicle to one that is "waiting for a future update". Help me understand, have any HW4 vehicles had their FSD Beta activated? Does anyone have any insight on time frame for deployment ? I am on Version 2023.20.9. Thanks for any input - it is appreciated.
BHB

 

[2virgule5]

Agreed. I’m about to cancel my FSD transfer for a new Model Y.

Yeah too late for me - took delivery of 2 new MY but now regretting it. Back to 4 years old Navigate on Autopilot which sucks at this point. It’s not just camera resolutions but also their angles that are different, so I’m afraid they don’t even have anything to feed the training data for HW4 at this point - hence the 6 months plus which - even worse - is on Elon time. Happy to be proven wrong and see 11.4.7 working on our machines soon

 

[Yelobird]

Yeah too late for me - took delivery of 2 new MY but now regretting it. Back to 4 years old Navigate on Autopilot which sucks at this point. It’s not just camera resolutions but also their angles that are different, so I’m afraid they don’t even have anything to feed the training data for HW4 at this point - hence the 6 months plus which - even worse - is on Elon time. Happy to be proven wrong and see 11.4.7 working on our machines soon

Not sure I would agree with it being That bad. FSD on HW4 still works as before just don’t currently have city street beta. Do hope it comes soon but I find the computer speed, camera resolution etc much better then my 2020.

 

[2virgule5]

Not sure I would agree with it being That bad. FSD on HW4 still works as before just don’t currently have city street beta. Do hope it comes soon but I find the computer speed, camera resolution etc much better then my 2020.

Fsd beta was a notable improvement for highway driving few months ago (single stack), if you ‘upgrade’ now to HW4 you’re back to a software stack that has not improved in 4-5 years, phantom breaking included. It’s a notable regression, let alone the rest that does not work (autopark, smart summon etc).

 

[EVRider-FL]

You should hold on to your $100 until you see some AP4 cars on teslafi getting 2023.26.10.

Too late. It wasn’t clear to me that I would get a build with FSD Beta if I didn’t actually have the FSD option, so I’m willing to experiment. Besides, TeslaFi can’t always determine which AP computer you have so the absence of HW4 vehicles is not necessarily meaningful.

 

[jbrady3324]

Not sure I would agree with it being That bad. FSD on HW4 still works as before just don’t currently have city street beta. Do hope it comes soon but I find the computer speed, camera resolution etc much better then my 2020.

it also lacks summon, parking, etc features. It’s unclear if it will take 6 months for those features. At this point, I’m assuming 6 months. Ridiculous.

 

[Seattle Tom]

Six year old Model X owner here (who just upgraded to a Y with HW4). I’m disappointed too, but not very much.

I’ve lived through this before with HW2 and HW2.5. Trust me - HW3’s days as the lead off hitter are numbered. Maybe 6 months…mid-2024 at most. HW4 is already permeating the fleet with S, X, and especially the high-volume Y. And very soon with the Highland Model 3 *and* Cybertruck. The training data available to Tesla will grow incredibly. And they won’t want FSD Beta not to be available for their flagship pickup or their highest volume sedan and SUV for long.

HW3 is going to get 11.3.7 first and like V12 and Smart Summon first, but that will be the last time it’s getting the very best features first (if at all).

 

[Larry Hutchinson]

Six year old Model X owner here

Should you be driving at such a young age?

 

[SashaZach]

Should you be driving at such a young age?

these are the questions that plague society

 

[fasteddie7]

Yeah too late for me - took delivery of 2 new MY but now regretting it. Back to 4 years old Navigate on Autopilot which sucks at this point. It’s not just camera resolutions but also their angles that are different, so I’m afraid they don’t even have anything to feed the training data for HW4 at this point - hence the 6 months plus which - even worse - is on Elon time. Happy to be proven wrong and see 11.4.7 working on our machines soon

there’s actually a few of us on here with HW4 and FSDb. Gigs of data upload frequently, real world data is definitely getting to them.

 

[jbrady3324]

Has Elon clarified if summon and parking features will return prior to 6 months? 2023 Tesla owners will have the least capable parking cars in the fleet without USS and a front Camera to make Vision more complete.

I feel terrible for early Cybertruck owners. It is going to be fun parking without USS or reliable Vision readings.

 

[Yelobird]

Has Elon clarified if summon and parking features will return prior to 6 months? 2023 Tesla owners will have the least capable parking cars in the fleet without USS and a front Camera to make Vision more complete.

I feel terrible for early Cybertruck owners. It is going to be fun parking without USS or reliable Vision readings.

The few that received FSDb on HW4 23 cars have auto park till they paused roll out for updates. As for summon, few have used it more then once so other then the “they owe me“ crowd it’s of little concern.

 

[Seattle Tom]

Should you be driving at such a young age?

Ba dum tss…goodnight, folks, I’m here all week! Don’t forget to tip your waitresses.

 

[hatchna]

My HW4 MYLR got updated to 2023.26.11 tonight and I was able to activate FSD beta afterwards.

 

[arbitrage000]

54 cars on TeslaFi have 26.11 with 11.4.4 now. All of them are HW4 cars (where as all cars that got 26.10 were HW3).
All 54 cars previously had 20.9 installed.
We will see how fast this rolls out to the HW4 fleet but many should be able to use FSDb shortly.

 

[Yarecki]

My 2023 MXP with HW4 just got 2023.26.11 overnight with FSDb 11.4.4. I tried it briefly and it works. My first FSDb!

 

[DriveMe]

Just got the FSD Beta on my Model S with HW4!

 

[Yarecki]

Looks like us HW4 owners are finally getting some love!

 

[jbrady3324]

Any sign of auto park or summon? Has Vision accuracy improved?

 

[mfmvdsande]

Any sign of auto park or summon? Has Vision accuracy improved?

Exactly what I would like to know. I live in Europe so FSD will not provide me more at the moment. But autopark and summon would be a nice add on (again).

 

[Yarecki]

Any sign of auto park or summon? Has Vision accuracy improved?

No, still no Summon or Autopark on my MXP. Vision does seem more accurate, but I haven’t had a chance to really test it yet.